Ukraine invasion

[General Zod]

So, failing to learn anything from the problems and setbacks his invasion in the Ukraine is having, apparently Putin saw fit today to issue a threat toward Sweden and Finland if they consider applying for UN membership.

Somewhere, the ghost of Simo Häyhä is waxing his skis and oiling his rifle. Pissing off the Finns has not gone well for Russia historically.

 

[Almin]

In Kyiv, ukr gov distributed 10k or 20k AKSU, to whoever wants it, now everything turns to shit, people started to shoot everywhere they think they see russ forces.

 

[Rhino]

I think he has watched the divisions our country faces and has taken it to build propaganda in support of his actions. The fact that he’s even using NAZIs as the boogie man shows how ridiculous his claims are.

Except he may not be talking about Nazis the way you or I talk about Nazis...

WHY NOW?

Today was a particularly stressful day. I had to deal with another attack on my freedom of speech courtesy of YouTube's refusal to deal…

gizadeathstar.com

The comments section there is also "interesting."

And, beyond that, there ARE "interesting" groups in the Ukraine, it would appear:

Ukraine underplays role of far right in conflict

David Stern reports from Kiev on the influence of the far right in Ukraine, and the failure of officials and the media to tackle it.

www.bbc.com

Facebook Allows Praise of Neo-Nazi Ukrainian Battalion If It Fights Russian Invasion

Facebook classifies the Azov Batallion as a particularly dangerous hate group but will allow praise of its defense of Ukraine against Russian forces.

theintercept.com

 

[gdr_11]

Who knows what is real or fake news in this conflict? At least this piece is a bit of light for those rooting for the Ukraine,

Ghost of Kyiv: unconfirmed Ukrainian MiG-29 pilot credited with six kills

Twitter and social media have been hailing the exploits of an unknown Ukrainian Fulcrum pilot who has allegedly shot down six Russian planes.

en.as.com

 

[kbaxter60]

What ELSE is happening that is gonna be covered up in the news cycles???

I hear that Jotato has named his SCOTUS nominee?

 

[Younggun]

In Kyiv, ukr gov distributed 10k or 20k AKSU, to whoever wants it, now everything turns to shit, people started to shoot everywhere they think they see russ forces.

When your military has no chance of stopping the threat, you arm any civilians willing to fight.

We dropped rifles in to European countries in WW2.


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[cycleguy2300]

So, failing to learn anything from the problems and setbacks his invasion in the Ukraine is having, apparently Putin saw fit today to issue a threat toward Sweden and Finland if they consider applying for UN membership.

Somewhere, the ghost of Simo Häyhä is waxing his skis and oiling his rifle. Pissing off the Finns has not gone well for Russia historically.

UN or NATO?

He really has lost it.

Your neighbor-R goes and starts beating up your other neighbor-U for talking to the cops so now he threatens you if you call the cops... you can call the cops or live under the thumb of a bully.

Time to make a choice on what world you want to live in. I think Finland and Sweden have a few more teeth than Ukraine and Russia might be in over their heads there (and might be getting close to that in Ukraine really)

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[kbaxter60]

I don't really recall the sniper massacre of 2014, but then there was much going on for me that year. Did this story maybe just "not get covered" or do most of you recall this episode?
Warning: semi-paywall; you may be asked to sign up:

Joe Biden and the 2014 Bloody Coup in Ukraine

The 2014 Coup in Ukraine: 100 people massacred - Joe Biden, Obama, John Kerry, Victoria Nuland and Eric Ciaramella involved

gregrubini.substack.com

 

[Sam7sf]

Putin can keep pushing but it’s not going to end well.

 

[Sam7sf]

You have several countries, such as the Czech Republic also, that learned a lot about themselves after Hitler and they are very passionate about not letting a dictator do what he wants.

 

[seeker_two]

UN or NATO?

He really has lost it.

Your neighbor-R goes and starts beating up your other neighbor-U for talking to the cops so now he threatens you if you call the cops... you can call the cops or live under the thumb of a bully.

.....or you slip behind the bully and put a knife between his ribs. Sweden and Finland have intelligence and spec-ops, too. And I'll bet there's been an increase in foreign travel to Moscow and other Rus attractions.....for "business trips".....

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[Grumps21]

That was a lot to take in

 

[Younggun]

Putin can keep pushing but it’s not going to end well.

Seems he’s running his mouth a lot and has succeeded in having the UN/NATO so scared that he might start a war that they’ll let him start any wars he pleases in hopes of avoiding a war.

Worthless bunch of cowards.

And I would be surprised if Finland or Sweden would be allowed to enter the UN or NATO at this point for fear they might have to actually come to their defense.

World Wars start when tyrants are allowed to go unchecked.


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[oldag]

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Brave man doing what he can.

 

[Sam7sf]

Seems he’s running his mouth a lot and has succeeded in having the UN/NATO so scared that he might start a war that they’ll let him start any wars he pleases in hopes of avoiding a war.

Worthless bunch of cowards.

And I would be surprised if Finland or Sweden would be allowed to enter the UN or NATO at this point for fear they might have to actually come to their defense.

World Wars start when tyrants are allowed to go unchecked.


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Yup see my post after. I believe more countries than people think will jump on Putin’s ass. Hitler left a bad taste.

 

[Aus_Schwaben]

Here is another laugh on the Left - one of their "think tanks", their answer to Prager U - actually espoused a position supporting Putin and their invasion of the Ukraine.

MSN

www.msn.com

 

[oldag]

If you are gonna die, make a difference and take some with you. You did not see Taliban doing this dumbshit. They would have planted a IED later that night.....

Your disrespect for the Ukranians is contemptible. You diss those who are risking their lives, or who have given their lives.

And perhaps this citizen does not have the knowledge or materials to make an IED. Not everyone is a highly trained operator with 007 credentials and Jason Bourne skills like you.

He is doing SOMETHING. And with bravery.

For that he deserves my respect and has my respect.

 

[oldag]

It would be easy for me to say "we" should go to war with Russia over Ukraine and with China over Taiwan...

Hell, I've been expecting war with one or the other, or both, for long enough that I would have been eligible for a draft if there was one (I just missed the one for Vietnam), but at 66, with double TKR and a bad back, I won't be going anywhere...

I'd feel a whole lot better about America going to war, if our government and military weren't so goddamned compromised, but regardless of whether we go to war, or not, it won't be my decision...

I do feel a whole lot stronger about our duty to Taiwan than I do about any duty to Ukraine. We should have left Europe to the Europeans long ago, but seeing as we allowed our government and military to become the policemen of the world, and made promises to Ukraine, maybe we should commit to war, but if we do, it should be war with no holds barred!

Understand.

But we could do a heck of a lot to help Ukraine without setting one foot on the ground. We have standoff weapons that could blunt the assault and perhaps allow Ukraine to hold their own.

 

[Renegade]

Your disrespect for the Ukranians is contemptible. You diss those who are risking their lives, or who have given their lives.

And perhaps this citizen does not have the knowledge or materials to make an IED. Not everyone is a highly trained operator with 007 credentials and Jason Bourne skills like you.

He is doing SOMETHING. And with bravery.

For that he deserves my respect and has my respect.

I diss the concept that dying doing something stupid advances the cause. Wandering onto a highway where you can get run over is stupid. It advances nothing. Telling a Russian commander to go **** himself is a great Clint Eastwood line, but 13 dead and no casualties on the enemy does not win wars. The guy who blew himself up taking out a bridge, yeah that was brave and made a difference. Ukraine is greatly outnumbered, they cannot afford to lose fighters needlessly.

Yeah, I have more skills than he does. So do most of the people on this forum. Would any of you wander on a highway of speeding trucks? Of course NOT. Instead you may sit at an overpass or on side of road and snipe shots at passing soldiers or do a DC sniper strategy. Or be a sabatour, that is a very important role right now. Nobody here would do stupid shit to get yourselves killed. if you have no fighting skills, you could learn First Aid skills and help in a hospital. Or he could learn to load mags or fix AKs. Or just be a good witness and report troop movements is probably a great role needed right now. There are lots of roles for civilians to play in a war effort.

Doing SOMETHING stupid is not bravery, it is just stupid. If every Ukraine civilian took out just one enemy soldier before dying, they would win in a route. But dying with ZERO casualties inflicted helps Russia, not Ukraine.

 

[TX oddball]

Thanks very much for posting. I have forgotten this video, just skimmed thru it a couple of years ago, but today watched it word for word. Everyone here should view it to get a better understanding how f***ed up Ukraine was working with the Democrats.