Ukraine invasion

[Younggun]

No doubt there will be propaganda during a war. But in my mind it comes down to one thing, Russia invaded a sovereign nation and innocent people are dying because of it. And on top of that, Russia controlling that territory will be bad for everyone except China in the long run.

Pretending what happens there doesn’t effect the US is being extremely short sighted, IMO.


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[Sam7sf]

Sometimes it’s best not to believe what’s reported and look into the eyes of the devil, his body language, and the contempt he has.

 

[Younggun]

Sometimes it’s best not to believe what’s reported and look into the eyes of the devil, his body language, and the contempt he has.

I’d say the most telling part of that video is the fear in the eyes of the messenger.


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[Sam7sf]

I’d say the most telling part of that video is the fear in the eyes of the messenger.


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Yuuup

 

[MTA]

If anyone wants to sell their Russian guns / ammo, I am here.

I understand not wanting to support Russia. I dont buy guns from certain countries I dont agree with so please let me know if you have a filthy communist Saiga/Vepr you need rehomed

 

[Sam7sf]

If anyone wants to sell their Russian guns / ammo, I am here.

I understand not wanting to support Russia. I dont buy guns from certain countries I dont agree with so please let me know if you have a filthy communist Saiga/Vepr you need rehomed

You ever shoot a vepr12? If not I’ll bring that also.

 

[cycleguy2300]

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[MTA]

You ever shoot a vepr12? If not I’ll bring that also.

The no birdshot is a deal breaker for me. My A300 eats anything

 

[Sam7sf]

The no birdshot is a deal breaker for me. My A300 eats anything

Lol I’m keeping it but wanted to know if you wanted to shoot it. It doesn’t like bird shot because bird shot uses dried estrogen for gun powder.

 

[Sam7sf]

And no point in using bird shot. Might as well use slugs for 99.99 percent of needs anyway.

 

[oldag]

The ruble on Monday lost as much as 20% of its value relative to the dollar—we think. Trading in the Russian currency is so thin owing to sanctions and other risks that it’s impossible to know the true exchange rate. The central bank on Monday suspended stock trading and raised its policy interest rate to 20% from 9.5%, in part to woo savers back to the banks after reports of bank runs over the weekend. New sanctions announced Monday by the U.S. Treasury prohibit most transactions with Russia’s central bank and sovereign-wealth fund, in tandem with similar measures imposed by other developed economies. This makes it all but impossible for Moscow to trade much of its $631 billion foreign-exchange reserves to shore up the ruble.

 

[MTA]

And no point in using bird shot. Might as well use slugs for 99.99 percent of needs anyway.

Yea I hear you definitely bring it. Ill shoot it. Does it have a threaded barrel?

 

[Sam7sf]

Yea I hear you definitely bring it. Ill shoot it. Does it have a threaded barrel?

Yes. I have a muzzle break on it. It’s a different animal with one on.

 

[Younggun]

The ruble on Monday lost as much as 20% of its value relative to the dollar—we think. Trading in the Russian currency is so thin owing to sanctions and other risks that it’s impossible to know the true exchange rate. The central bank on Monday suspended stock trading and raised its policy interest rate to 20% from 9.5%, in part to woo savers back to the banks after reports of bank runs over the weekend. New sanctions announced Monday by the U.S. Treasury prohibit most transactions with Russia’s central bank and sovereign-wealth fund, in tandem with similar measures imposed by other developed economies. This makes it all but impossible for Moscow to trade much of its $631 billion foreign-exchange reserves to shore up the ruble.

According to Shapiro the Ruble dropped by 30% and the 20% interest was an effort to reduce lending because the RU gov and banks just don’t have the cash for it.

Just another perspective.


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[toddnjoyce]

The Moscow Exchange (their version of the NY Stock Exchange) is still offline.

 

[Younggun]

The Moscow Exchange (their version of the NY Stock Exchange) is still offline.

I read one report that they tried to bring it back up but it had been hacked and redirected to an image of a Ukrainian flag. Maybe just propaganda though.

I have no clue how any of that works so took it with a grain of salt.

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[Big Green]

If anyone wants to sell their Russian guns / ammo, I am here.

I understand not wanting to support Russia. I dont buy guns from certain countries I dont agree with so please let me know if you have a filthy communist Saiga/Vepr you need rehomed

And if there are more than you can buy, I’d love a Saiga.

 

[toddnjoyce]

I read one report that they tried to bring it back up but it had been hacked and redirected to an image of a Ukrainian flag. Maybe just propaganda though.

I have no clue how any of that works so took it with a grain of salt.

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Yeah, I don’t know…yesterday the ip address was dead, today it’s just timing out. That’s external facing; no idea what’s going in internal.

 

[benenglish]

I’d say the most telling part of that video is the fear in the eyes of the messenger.

If you're so afraid of your boss that you won't tell him what's going on, you're both failing at your job and undermining him.

Also, a boss that makes people that afraid is an incompetent boss.

I note that China had rolling power outages starting in May, 2021. At times, as much as one third of the country was under rolling blackouts. They still have some, though the problem isn't as bad as it once was. According to some intelligence sources, Chairman Xi Jinping didn't even know the blackouts were happening until September! EVERYONE was afraid to be the person who informed him of the situation. Bearers of bad news had gotten shot too many times before.

I see some of that same sort of fear directed toward Putin. And if Putin doesn't get accurate, timely information, whether the news is good or bad, he can't help but make uninformed decisions that will make things worse for the entire world.

I want Putin to screw up, lose, fall from power, etc. But I don't want him being taken down in a much-wider-than-necessary conflagration simply because his advisers are too scared of him to keep him informed. He can screw up in ways that spell the end of his personal political power; that's fine and, arguably, he's already done that. He can also screw up in ways that end his power AND the lives of millions of innocents. No one really knows which way this is going to be resolved.

 

[toddnjoyce]

If you're so afraid of your boss that you won't tell him what's going on, you're both failing at your job and undermining him.

Also, a boss that makes people that afraid is an incompetent boss.

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We are talking about a boss who has no problem murdering people (in unique and quite cruel ways) who disagree with him in any degree. Putin enjoyed putting the speaker in the position of knowing if he didn’t get the answer he wanted to hear, there would be consequences.

But in general, your point stands.