any of you not full fledged republicans?

[paknheat]

We owe no "loyalty" to the government.

Everything this country is founded on is the idea that the gov't will eventually become corrupt. It will restrict rights. It will needlessly tax, it will kill, murder, rape its way into, or to maintain its power.

That is why there is a document that outlines things the gov't CANNOT TOUCH.

Freedom of speech, the right to keep and bear arms, the right to not house troops, freedom from unreasonable search and seizure, freedom from self incrimination, etc etc.

It’s really a shame most young folks living here today don’t know or understand that.


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[paknheat]

My principal is loyalty to the us federal government, not an unelected crown

You meant to say the Constitution of the United States of America right?

That’s what I pledged my oath to when i enlisted.


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[zackmars]

Remind me again how the United Sates was created.

Furthermore, you didn't say anything about violence, you only said that you would crush a movement for secession. From where I'm standing, that means all movements, even peaceful ones.

Any movement can become violent if you bring enough violence.


Or taco bell, or Bucc-ee's bean burritos

Depends on the movement, really

 

[zackmars]

It’s really a shame most young folks living here today don’t know or understand that.


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12+ years of government indoctrination will do that to you. I am not a smart man, but i liked history enough to realize things they told me just didn't jive

 

[jrbfishn]

My principal is loyalty to the us federal government, not an unelected crown

If your loyalty is to the government, not the Constitution and Country, then you ARE an idiot.
Because currently, the government is or is openly trying to, violate it. Unlawfully. You need to get your head out of your ass before you lose your ass at the hands of your government.

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[zackmars]

If your loyalty is to the government, not the Constitution and Country, then you ARE an idiot.
Because currently, the government is or is openly trying to, violate it. Unlawfully. You need to get your head out of your ass before you lose your ass at the hands of your government.

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Statists, like the OP, and anyone else in the authoritarian left can be broken down to 2 groups. The useful idiots, and the true believers.

I'm leaning towards OP being a useful idiot, which is the most backhanded compliment i can possibly think of.

To OP, do you know what will happen to you under a statist government?

You will be worked to the bone
You will be beaten
You will be starved

IF you are lucky, you get a bullet to the base of the skull

 

[jrbfishn]

my mom is from russia, so I am biased

Yes you are. Biased and uneducated. Horrible combination.

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[jrbfishn]

no, but don’t people of irish heritage in boston care about ireland? it’s only natural no?

No!
Edited to add; If your loyalty is to Russia because that is where your mother is from, then please feel free to move back and become a Russian citizen. By remaining here, by your own words, you are either a spy or a traitor. Or both.
Either way, you are an idiot.

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[DoubleDuty]

I am of Irish Heritage, But I am an American citizen whose allegiance is to the Constitution and Bill of Rights. It is damn sure not the Government. You would be wise to take the advice being given here your future depends on it.

 

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[zackmars]

America is a special place. Yu can be born anywhere else in the world, spend the vast majority of your life there.


But the second you move to the US, you are an American.


You cannot be born somewhere else and move to Russia, and become a Russian.


Even of you move to Russia, have kids there, even they will not be Russian.




My family moved to the US in 3 waves, 1840's, 1910's, and 1920's. They learned the language,and left Germany behind.


Well, except for 1917-1918 and 1941-1945.

They were Americans. Thats all they called themselves.

 

[glenbo]

So, you don't believe people have a right to choose their own governments then? You know, the principle this country was founded on.

You would make a fantastic tyrant.

Of course he would. He's a libtard.

 

[Sam Colt]

my mom is from russia, so I am biased

She was Russian. I just Finnish.

 

[fork3]

I guess any of us that support Texas seceding the United States are traitors, and should be executed?

Only if somebody opens up on federal troops sumter style or has detailed plans to

 

[fork3]

She was Russian. I just Finnish.

that’s pretty good lol

 

[Wiliamr]

It was implied that I was talking about the american government. Obviously I don’t care either way about said principle in panama or burundi or whatever, I didn’t think I even needed to state that.

What the hell are you talking about? No one brought up those places except you. You are the perfect example of wilful ignorance and misdirection which is pervasive in not only American education today, but the inability to draw logical thought or direction from a discussion. You are the poster child for public education and the failure to train minds to extrapolate information and to draw logical conclusions from same.

 

[fork3]

No!
Edited to add; If your loyalty is to Russia because that is where your mother is from, then please feel free to move back and become a Russian citizen. By remaining here, by your own words, you are either a spy or a traitor. Or both.
Either way, you are an idiot.

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Lol, I’ve already stated several times that I’m American first several times. But just like you’ll see a lot of irish flags alongside america in boston, namesakes of teams, etc. I do keep some elements of my culture/heritage, and love it, even if not as much as America.

 

[Sam7sf]

Ok it hasn’t been asked or if it has my bad.

In regard to your view on federal troops: was Randy Weaver justified if he wanted to shoot at federal agents?

See Ruby Ridge Idaho. Famous case.

 

[General Zod]

BTW, for those of you who've met my teenage sons, there's your proof not all young people are like this kid.

 

[glenbo]

What the hell are you talking about? No one brought up those places except you. You are the perfect example of wilful ignorance and misdirection which is pervasive in not only American education today, but the inability to draw logical thought or direction from a discussion. You are the poster child for public education and the failure to train minds to extrapolate information and to draw logical conclusions from same.

You're probably using words that he can't understand. He's a libtard, go easy on the vocabulary and he might get a hint.