any of you not full fledged republicans?

[Axxe55]

if there was a movement for travis county to secede from the rest of red texas, yes I would want to crush it.

History and civics are for sure your very weak subjects.

 

[Maverick44]

if there was a movement for travis county to secede from the rest of red texas, yes I would want to crush it.

So, you don't believe people have a right to choose their own governments then? You know, the principle this country was founded on.

You would make a fantastic tyrant.

 

[Axxe55]

Sometimes that laughter you hear in the background, isn't other people laughing with you, but laughing at you.

 

[Axxe55]

So, you don't believe people have a right to choose their own governments then? You know, the principle this country was founded on.

You would make a fantastic tyrant.

I doubt he's even capable of doing that!

 

[fork3]

So, you don't believe people have a right to choose their own governments then? You know, the principle this country was founded on.

You would make a fantastic tyrant.

by election, not by violence

 

[toddnjoyce]

It’s fun comparing la horca’s comments between here and the ukraine thread.

Hey @fork3 how do you reconcile the whole Ukraine/Russia thing?

 

[msharley]

by election, not by violence

I'm a thinkin'??

The real number of Soviet Citizens MURDERED by JOSEPH STALIN? Was something like 60 MILLIONS??

 

[zackmars]

crush it.

You are a statist. You are mid authoritarian-left.

To a statist, the government, the state is the highest authority. Anything, anyone, seen as a threat is dealt with. Occasionally people might get cut a break if they further the states agenda.

You see the state as a god, or a king, from which all "rights" are simply privileges able to be revoked at a moments notice.


That is not our system. We owe the government nothing.


The government owes us for #1 not killing them, #2 choosing them to govern us.

 

[fork3]

It’s fun comparing la horca’s comments between here and the ukraine thread.

Hey @fork3 how do you reconcile the whole Ukraine/Russia thing?

my mom is from russia, so I am biased

 

[Axxe55]

You are a statist. You are mid authoritarian-left.

To a statist, the government, the state is the highest authority. Anything, anyone, seen as a threat is dealt with. Occasionally people might get cut a break if they further the states agenda.

You see the state as a god, or a king, from which all "rights" are simply privileges able to be revoked at a moments notice.


That is not our system. We owe the government nothing.


The government owes us for #1 not killing them, #2 choosing them to govern us.

"Of the people, by the people and for the people."

 

[toddnjoyce]

my mom is from russia, so I am biased

Keep on making hay there, la horca

 

[Axxe55]

my mom is from russia, so I am biased

Does she still live in Russia? Once a person immigrates to America, their loyalties are suppose to be to America, not another nation or country.

My ancestors are from Germany, and I feel not one iota of loyalty to that country in the least bit, not even a tinge of bias as to what happens in Germany.

 

[fork3]

Does she still live in Russia? Once a person immigrates to America, their loyalties are suppose to be to America, not another nation or country.

My ancestors are from Germany, and I feel not one iota of loyalty to that country in the least bit, not even a tinge of bias as to what happens in Germany.

no, but don’t people of irish heritage in boston care about ireland? it’s only natural no?

 

[zackmars]

by election, not by violence

This is what that 4 boxes bit was about.

Sometimes you can't rant on your soapbox

Sometimes you cant vote your way out

Sometimes you can't, nullify, no-bill, or acquit your way out.


That last box, the cartridge box, is all that you may have. It's what keeps the others working. It's the ultimate equalizer, motivator, and the way it deals with problems is permanent.

 

[Axxe55]

no, but don’t people of irish heritage in boston care about ireland? it’s only natural no?

There is a huge difference between recognizing and keeping one's heritage and culture, and loyalty to another country.

And if you can't see just how wrong your loyalties are in the Russia/Ukraine conflict, then you are even less intelligent than I originally thought.

In a conflict in another country, I will always try and sympathize or support whatever country is in the right.

Seems you have even a less than basic understanding of right or wrong as well.

 

[msharley]

"Of the people, by the people and for the people."

 

[Sasquatch]

by election, not by violence

This country was birthed by violence, by sedition, treason, secession - there are no peaceful political revolutions. Dictators and tyrants do not wilfully give up power or allow their subjects to rebel. The only way out of dictatorship, out of socialism/communism, out of tyranny is thru the letting of blood. Lots and lots and lots of blood - the blood of the righteous, the blood of the evil, and the blood of the innocent, unfortunately.

When a government, when a tyrant seizes the grasp around the populace, when they have trampled on and stripped away the rights, the freedoms, and the livelihoods of men the only option for the oppressed is to fight.

 

[Sam7sf]

no, but don’t people of irish heritage in boston care about ireland? it’s only natural no?

No. You care about family. Not the government they report to.

 

[Maverick44]

by election, not by violence

Remind me again how the United Sates was created.

Furthermore, you didn't say anything about violence, you only said that you would crush a movement for secession. From where I'm standing, that means all movements, even peaceful ones.

 

[Axxe55]

Remind me again how the United Sates was created.

Furthermore, you didn't say anything about violence, you only said that you would crush a movement for secession. From where I'm standing, that means all movements, even peaceful ones.

I guess any of us that support Texas seceding the United States are traitors, and should be executed?