Ukraine War and Politics

[cycleguy2300]

I dig it

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[Havok1]

OMG...

How could anyone have a clue about what you are talking about with such generic, ethereal, vague speech... All you just said is "they" said "basically what I have said"... it really doesn't narrow it down. Geez dude, why is it so hard to just post a basic attributed quote... "general cheese burger said Ukraine will run out of pickles by Christmas" hell, just paraphrase.

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i shouldn’t need to for someone as knowledgeable as you claim to be. the statements are out there and old news now.

Plus, you have shown in the past that you don’t understand what you’re reading when you are presented with information that’s not proxy war support propaganda.

You also showed in another thread recently that even after admitting that you’re clueless about a topic, you are still willing to argue just to argue. So there is basically no point in looking anything up for you.

 

[cycleguy2300]

i shouldn’t need to for someone as knowledgeable as you claim to be. the statements are out there and old news now.

Plus, you have shown in the past that you don’t understand what you’re reading when you are presented with information that’s not proxy war support propaganda.

You also showed in another thread recently that even after admitting that you’re clueless about a topic, you are still willing to argue just to argue. So there is basically no point in looking anything up for you.

You are a manipulative, arrogant troll and you have here in this post admitted as much.

You make ambiguous posts that bait questions, then refuse to answer those seeking information because you dont think they deserve it, because you are not interested in conversation and honest arguments, but hungry for a feeling of control by being able to deny someone something the want and in fact need from you to be able to make a well reasoned decision.

That is trolling and at its root a disgusting behavior for a human to engage in.

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[Havok1]

You are a manipulative, arrogant troll and you have here in this post admitted as much.

You make ambiguous posts that bait questions, then refuse to answer those seeking information because you dont think they deserve it, because you are not interested in conversation and honest arguments, but hungry for a feeling of control by being able to deny someone something the want and in fact need from you to be able to make a well reasoned decision.

That is trolling and at its root a disgusting behavior for a human to engage in.

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You sure are insecure about people not thinking highly of what you say. If you don’t like the replies you get then don’t post here. Nothing that you post here will change anything.

 

[BigRed]

Ukrainian Sniper Breaks Cover to Claim World-Record Hit of More Than 2 Miles

The shot has offered Ukraine a morale boost as the country’s forces struggle to make headway at the front line.

www.wsj.com

Ukrainian sniper claims to have shot Russian soldier at a distance of over 2 miles (12,470 feet).

And putin is untouchable?

$16B gets it done.
Have gun. Will travel.

 

[cycleguy2300]

Ukrainian Sniper Breaks Cover to Claim World-Record Hit of More Than 2 Miles

The shot has offered Ukraine a morale boost as the country’s forces struggle to make headway at the front line.

www.wsj.com

Ukrainian sniper claims to have shot Russian soldier at a distance of over 2 miles (12,470 feet).

And putin is untouchable?

$16B gets it done.
Have gun. Will travel.

You're a little behind the times and as ridiculous as ever, but it was an impressive shot.

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[BigRed]

You're a little behind the times and as ridiculous as ever, but it was an impressive shot.

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Have him go shoot putin and put an end to pissing away American property on this nonsense.

 

[Johnny Diamond]

So pay him your $16B ?

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[BigRed]

So pay him your $16B ?

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At least two options out there now.

I prefer to do it myself, but it is money better spent than what has been done to date either way.

 

[cycleguy2300]

Have him go shoot putin and put an end to pissing away American property on this nonsense.

You'd have a better chance of pissing up a rope...

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[Havok1]

I couldn’t imagine taking a shot like that. Quite impressive.

 

[cycleguy2300]

I couldn’t imagine taking a shot like that. Quite impressive.

I'd be happy to hit a building sized target at that range

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[cycleguy2300]

But lets appease them with some of Ukriane...

T.me/tsaplienko

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[Cool 'Horn Luke]

Let's not forget that some folks, on their own good authority, will tell us that Pootin does NOT have aggressive intentions on any other sovereign nation. I guess horseshit tastes good to some people.

 

[@TX_1]

Let's not forget that some folks, on their own good authority, will tell us that Pootin does NOT have aggressive intentions on any other sovereign nation. I guess horseshit tastes good to some people.

I posted this to the beginning entry of the "other" Ukraine thread:

Thanks for starting this thread. I don't like either side in this one. That is a first for me. The reporting coming out of the grinder is pure propaganda from both sides. But for that matter, our US media is almost as bad. Looks like we are nearing the end of this, final solution is for some peace talks to be floated. The loses are far too high for both nations.

 

[cycleguy2300]

I posted this to the beginning entry of the "other" Ukraine thread:

Thanks for starting this thread. I don't like either side in this one. That is a first for me. The reporting coming out of the grinder is pure propaganda from both sides. But for that matter, our US media is almost as bad. Looks like we are nearing the end of this, final solution is for some peace talks to be floated. The loses are far too high for both nations.

Of course both sides are going to try to sell the data favorably, but that doesn’t make it untrue.

The reports from one side, the Ukrainian side, can be backed up independently with OSINT...

Talks wont happen anytime soon.

russia is holding presidential elections March of 2024, putler, having positioned himself as a strong leader and after sacrificing so many russian lives in Ukraine, could not survive politically if there was an agreement which lost any significant captured Ukrainian territory.

Likewise, support for the total expulsion of russia from occupied Ukrainian territory is extremely high in Ukraine and any leader who gave up Ukrainian land to russia, would not stand a chance in polls.

So, I think your statement about nearing the end is incorrect. The war is still active and mobile. Ukraine has been preserving its troops as it can, and waiting for western equipment like tanks which arrived just as the mud came...


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[@TX_1]

Of course both sides are going to try to sell the data favorably, but that doesn’t make it untrue.

The reports from one side, the Ukrainian side, can be backed up independently with OSINT...

Talks wont happen anytime soon.

russia is holding presidential elections March of 2024, putler, having positioned himself as a strong leader and after sacrificing so many russian lives in Ukraine, could not survive politically if there was an agreement which lost any significant captured Ukrainian territory.

Likewise, support for the total expulsion of russia from occupied Ukrainian territory is extremely high in Ukraine and any leader who gave up Ukrainian land to russia, would not stand a chance in polls.

So, I think your statement about nearing the end is incorrect. The war is still active and mobile. Ukraine has been preserving its troops as it can, and waiting for western equipment like tanks which arrived just as the mud came...


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I am not here to argue with you. It goes nowhere when one party is only here to stir things up.

Putin's Russia partners with very bad allies. Iran, Hamas, Yemen, and other terrorist supporters. But Putin is a Nationalist, not a Globalist.


On the other hand, Ukraine people have been victims of genocide under Stalin and life under Communism. For a moment, it looked like they would be grafted onto the West. But THEN, Zelenski appeared, fair haired child of Klaus Schwab and the WEF and the World Bank. What does that represent? Global Dictatorship, run by Fascists. Yes, those direct descendants of real Fascists. (do a little research on Klaus, Ms Freeland and multiple others. It is out there if you look.) They want to sell the World on Universal Slavery with the Great Reset.

MEGABARF. I want NO PART of any of this.


There are no Good Guys in this game. Sorry. That is reality.

 

[cycleguy2300]

I am not here to argue with you. It goes nowhere when one party is only here to stir things up.

Putin's Russia partners with very bad allies. Iran, Hamas, Yemen, and other terrorist supporters. But Putin is a Nationalist, not a Globalist.


On the other hand, Ukraine people have been victims of genocide under Stalin and life under Communism. For a moment, it looked like they would be grafted onto the West. But THEN, Zelenski appeared, fair haired child of Klaus Schwab and the WEF and the World Bank. What does that represent? Global Dictatorship, run by Fascists. Yes, those direct descendants of real Fascists. (do a little research on Klaus, Ms Freeland and multiple others. It is out there if you look.) They want to sell the World on Universal Slavery with the Great Reset.

MEGABARF. I want NO PART of any of this.


There are no Good Guys in this game. Sorry. That is reality.

Oh geez, I dont even know where to start there is so much wrong with your conclusions....

Putin is as much of a nationalist as a certian toothbrush mustached German, if you are OK with their nation being a global one... they both invaded their peaceable neighbors under the guise of protecting their ethnic kin from the evil bankers (we know yall mean Jews when you say bankers)

Ukraine was snuggled up to russia and enjoy all the benefits of the soviet legacy until 2014 when the Ukrainians held a coup and ousted the russian puppet and put a western facing president in who was succeeded by Zelensky in free and fair elections.

Putin took advantage of the political turmoil in 2014, along with a weak US president who had socialist leanings to invade the eastern regions of Ukriane.

The only ones who have stirred up trouble in this thread are the ones who showed they are anti-semetic (sorry, "anti-global banker") in another thread, which is rather an interesting correlation...

If you can present facts and data and make arguments based off those and not fantasy, we can have a civil and productive discussion.

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[Havok1]

Meanwhile, NATO is posturing for their “well, we tried our best” outcome.

 

[@TX_1]

Oh geez, I dont even know where to start there is so much wrong with your conclusions....

Putin is as much of a nationalist as a certian toothbrush mustached German, if you are OK with their nation being a global one... they both invaded their peaceable neighbors under the guise of protecting their ethnic kin from the evil bankers (we know yall mean Jews when you say bankers)

Ukraine was snuggled up to russia and enjoy all the benefits of the soviet legacy until 2014 when the Ukrainians held a coup and ousted the russian puppet and put a western facing president in who was succeeded by Zelensky in free and fair elections.

Putin took advantage of the political turmoil in 2014, along with a weak US president who had socialist leanings to invade the eastern regions of Ukriane.

The only ones who have stirred up trouble in this thread are the ones who showed they are anti-semetic (sorry, "anti-global banker") in another thread, which is rather an interesting correlation...

If you can present facts and data and make arguments based off those and not fantasy, we can have a civil and productive discussion.

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Don't know what planet you are from, but you are NUTS! I know about WWII and the Balkans much further back. We have no further need of conversation. Have a good evening. The Mess in the Ukraine will be resolved soon. Bye Bye. End Trans.