Ukraine invasion

[jrbfishn]

He is absolutely not deflecting. He is being a common-sensical realist.

Excuse me? We were discussing whether or not there was any similarities between Putin and Hitler. There are some. That has absolutely nothing to do with Biden and the border. Which I agree is a total shit show. It was on the way to being cleaned up as much as possible at the time and Biden dumped truck loads of shit on the show. Trying to bring the border into it was just deflecting and evading an honest answer.
Hitler and Putin are not the same. But there are some interesting parallels.



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[jrbfishn]

I think he was simply pointing out Brandon the Potato's "outrage" of Russia's violation of Ukraine's sacred border when our own border is wide open to any and all.

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I agree. Biden's outrage is fake.
See my post above.

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[Younggun]

September 2001... The American people are falling for the propaganda again.

Sept 2001 was the result of doing nothing beforehand and not nipping problems in the bud. Instead they were allowed to grow and flourish.


Doesn’t matter how it started because at that point there’s no going back. What matters is how far it was allowed to go. And it went back to the WTC in 2 passenger jets, as well as the pentagon, and an empty field.


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[toddnjoyce]

To keep it all real, @Jarine88 this is the only way I’d get into an AK:

 

[Grumps21]

Putin has absolutely nothing to do with our southern border. Biden has tons to do with the failures there. As well as his failures in dealing with Putin.
Stop deflecting. You are smarter than that.

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I was just replying in response to your comment:

“Yes. It is. A lot of parallels to Hitler. Like stupid historical excuses to take over other Countries.”

I’m reading the “historical excuses” as a main driver of your argument. All I’m saying is that countries have been invaded with far less than that. I was not trying to link Putin or Hitler to our current border crisis

 

[IXLR8]

Putin may just give up on Ukraine. He can march unopposed through our southern border.

 

[etmo]

Biden was not POTUS at the time but was in the government. Pointless. If the government won't live up to a promise, it should not have been made.

The US government did NOT make ANY promise to the Ukraine.

 

[Tnhawk]

Putin may just give up on Ukraine. He can march unopposed through our southern border.

Hilary, Pelosi, Hunter and Joe will send Air Force ONe to bring him to the White House.

 

[Younggun]

Elon Musk has activated Starlink internet service for Ukraine and is apparently shipping out more dishes to the area after a request from the Ukrainian President.


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[jrbfishn]

The US government did NOT make ANY promise to the Ukraine.

It's been well established that the U.S., and others, told Ukraine that we would help protect them if they give up nukes.
Here is a scenario for you "no written agreement" folks.
We all live on the same street. Some of us talk you into giving up several of your best guns with a promise to help you if the local gang comes to terrorize the neighborhood. But when they do, we tell you we have no written contract, and let them attach you hoping they leave us alone.

Lie to me. Tell me you would not be calling us cowards. Welchers. Scum of the earth.
If you say you wouldn't, I'll call you a liar.

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[motorcarman]

 

[Rhino]

The more things go, the less I support either side. So many things put out on pro-Ukrainian social media have already been proven lies.

 

[etmo]

It's been well established that the U.S., and others, told Ukraine that we would help protect them if they give up nukes.
Here is a scenario for you "no written agreement" folks.
We all live on the same street. Some of us talk you into giving up several of your best guns with a promise to help you if the local gang comes to terrorize the neighborhood. But when they do, we tell you we have no written contract, and let them attach you hoping they leave us alone.

What is well-established is that you and others don't understand the Budapest Memorandum and what it means.

Here's a scenario that might help you (read closely, there's a test afterwards):

You have a crazy, leftist neighbor. He's always calling you a racist scumbag and he often makes sexual advances towards your wife and daughter. He promises Mothers Against Guns that you will loan them your car the next time they need it.

OK, here's the test to see if you understood the scenario:

When Moms Against Guns comes knocking at your door and demands your car, do you give them the keys, since you promised to loan it to them?

 

[cycleguy2300]

The more things go, the less I support either side. So many things put out on pro-Ukrainian social media have already been proven lies.

Such as?

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[pronstar]

The more things go, the less I support either side. So many things put out on pro-Ukrainian social media have already been proven lies.

Agreed.

Had we not meddled in their affairs back in 2014-ish, we likely wouldn’t be dealing with this now.


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[Younggun]

So, watching Louder with Crowder this morning. I seems the Russian blustering about nukes was brought on by removing Russian banks from SWIFT. Almost like it was a big deal to them.


Remember a few days ago when Biden was asked about why that wasn’t part of the sanctions and he said it wouldn’t matter because the sanctions in place were already much worse? Seems the news is pretty much ignoring the correlation with SWIFT and Pootin trying to threaten nuclear war (which I still fully believe is a bluff)


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[gll]

It would seem that what Putin actually did, concerning nuclear weapons, was put his nuclear defenses on alert as as precaution against nuclear attack.

The Deep State/MSM has been trying to spin that into a threat.

 

[bbbass]

The US government did NOT make ANY promise to the Ukraine.

That's weird, Madeline Albright was NOT a U.S. govt rep??? Duly authorized by the Executive Branch to engage the U.S. in "EXECUTIVE AGREEMENTS" regarding foreign policy???

Good Lord man, do some reading!!!

Executive agreements do not require super-
majority support in the Senate as do formal Article II treaties. Since the
1940s, the vast majority of international agreements have been completed
by presidents as executive agreements rather than as treaties.

https://www.press.umich.edu/pdf/9780472116874-ch1.pdf

 

[Younggun]

It would seem that what Putin actually did, concerning nuclear weapons, was put his nuclear defenses on alert as as precaution against nuclear attack.

The Deep State/MSM has been trying to spin that into a threat.

“High alert” means they may be called to launch at a moments notice, not necessarily as retaliation.

There’s no reason for him to take that kind of stance defensively, especially given how minimal the response has been to his actions.


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