Target Slams The Door
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Thegomezclan
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Agreed
I don't think you understand what rights are, or where they come from.
Again, they DO NOT come from the government. If you truly feel that the government is where you get your rights you would also agree that government has the authority to remove them. And that is pure bullshit.
Insults are for children, grow up.
Just to clear up misconceptions of some, please see below.
SUBCHAPTER C. CANCELLATION AND SUSPENSION OF PERMITS
Sec. 11.61. CANCELLATION OR SUSPENSION OF PERMIT.
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(e) Except as provided by Subsection (f) or (i), the commission or administrator shall cancel an original or renewal permit if it is found, after notice and hearing, that the permittee knowingly allowed Texas Alcoholic Beverage Code (2012) 34 a person to possess a firearm in a building on the licensed premises. This subsection does not apply to a person:
(1) who holds a security officer commission issued under Chapter 1702, Occupations Code, if:
(A) the person is engaged in the performance of the person’s duties as a security officer;
(B) the person is wearing a distinctive uniform; and
(C) the weapon is in plain view;
(2) who is a peace officer;
(3) who is a permittee or an employee of a permittee if the person is supervising the operation of the premises; or
(4) who possesses a concealed handgun of the same category the person is licensed to carry under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, unless the person is on the premises of a business described by Section 46.035(b)(1), Penal Code.
SUBCHAPTER C. CANCELLATION AND SUSPENSION OF PERMITS
Sec. 11.61. CANCELLATION OR SUSPENSION OF PERMIT.
…
(e) Except as provided by Subsection (f) or (i), the commission or administrator shall cancel an original or renewal permit if it is found, after notice and hearing, that the permittee knowingly allowed Texas Alcoholic Beverage Code (2012) 34 a person to possess a firearm in a building on the licensed premises. This subsection does not apply to a person:
(1) who holds a security officer commission issued under Chapter 1702, Occupations Code, if:
(A) the person is engaged in the performance of the person’s duties as a security officer;
(B) the person is wearing a distinctive uniform; and
(C) the weapon is in plain view;
(2) who is a peace officer;
(3) who is a permittee or an employee of a permittee if the person is supervising the operation of the premises; or
(4) who possesses a concealed handgun of the same category the person is licensed to carry under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, unless the person is on the premises of a business described by Section 46.035(b)(1), Penal Code.
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The confusion by some on here with my statement that Target will lose their TABC license if they allow OC in their Texas stores. Another poster contended my statement was incorrect. The above "cut & paste" is directly from TABC statute.
Read the past entries!
You referenced the wrong law. Search "smashburger" for more.
Fine, then you referenced it wrong. It specifically disallows open carry of long guns like OCT is doing.
THATS WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING!!!!!
My original statement was that Target had no choice but to take the stance that they did on OCT actions in their stores based on the TABC license
If you had actually read my posts you would have saved yourself a lot of confusion! Geeez!
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Tejano Scott
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This seems like a fun thread. I almost want to go back and read all 9 pages. Almost.
ROGER4314
Been Called "Flash" Since I Was A Kid!
In politics and in the shooting sports, we work with cause and effect relationships. When we do something that brings a positive result, we need to do more of that. When we do something that ends with a NEGATIVE result, we need to STOP doing that! The OC boys haven't figured that out, yet.
If your actions result in slamming your peter in the door, then STOP doing those things! Continuing on the same path and heaping negative feedback from the public onto our cause is just nuts! Try a plan out and if it results in no gain or worse, a thrashing from the media, then quit doing that!
How can you garner positive results? Take kids and their parents to a range day. Teach the kids safely, show the parents something positive and TA-DA.........positive results! Set up at fairs and community gatherings, display the firearms, teach all about them and why OC is desirable, and advance your cause, once again.
Flash
If your actions result in slamming your peter in the door, then STOP doing those things! Continuing on the same path and heaping negative feedback from the public onto our cause is just nuts! Try a plan out and if it results in no gain or worse, a thrashing from the media, then quit doing that!
How can you garner positive results? Take kids and their parents to a range day. Teach the kids safely, show the parents something positive and TA-DA.........positive results! Set up at fairs and community gatherings, display the firearms, teach all about them and why OC is desirable, and advance your cause, once again.
Flash
Exactly! My Dad had a saying that kind of relates; "You can talk people out of more money than you can beat out of them!"
It just occurred to me that there are some Target stores I wouldn't go into unarmed.
I won't go into any Target store unarmed.
Completely their choice if I shop there. Same goes for any other retail establishment.
At least get to the "fatty and snowboots" reference.
Not a "Right" in the strict sense of the word but Gays and minorities definitely have more "protections" than Straight White Christian Conservatives. When was the last time a Black was charged with a Hate crime? The victims of the Knock-out game are overwhelmingly White yet to date the only perpetrator of that crime charged with a Hate crime has been White. The Christian owners of the bakery that refused to bake a wedding cake will suffer the full weight of an oppressive politically correct government should they refuse. No Progressive organizations were targeted by the IRS. So yes, in the strict sense of the word Gays, et al have no more constitutionally iterated "Rights" than anyone else, but in reality you'd have to be wilfully blind to not admit they get more "protections".
While you are generally correct about "protections", protections was not the statement I repiled to, rights was.
There are lots of examples of unequal treatment under the law. How about the rich white kids that skate on their DUI or drug bust because daddy is rich and has pull? It can, but doesn't always, cut both ways.
