Coronavirus Epidemic

[jordanmills]

Dr. Don Renchie ( look him up) did our pesticide applicators continuing education when I worked for the City.
His message throughout the training was “your hands are the nastiest things on your body” and wash your damned hands with soap and water”

Sanitizers don’t really do shit, but soap and water will actually clean/sanitize.

Eh, sanitizer does a lot. It can also help clean grease and grime off, in a pinch. But it's not a replacement to washing with soap and hot water.

 

[TX OMFS]

In the OR we use strong antibacterial soaps or no-rinse hand sanitizers. Our hand sanitizers are stronger than the pure alcohol ones and we apply liberally.

 

[TX OMFS]

Kind of amazing the dumbf*ckery people will do.

Sometimes the employment gene pool needs a cleansing.

 

[SQLGeek]

I don't know how bad it will get here but seeing how big of a disaster it is in Italy right now does not give me a lot of hope. I pray the rest of Europe isn't right behind them.

 

[popper]

Let's see, China has been doing a LOT of genetic experimentation. China has 1/4 pop. that is old and needs 'supporting'. Wuhan is a center for all kinds of 'medical' stuff, Level 4 lab etc. So far 'reports' state elderly effected, young aren't. Do I see a pattern?
No further reports from Indonesia or Iran - both under China 'umbrella' Guess the Ughar situation has been solved.
Now back to reality!

 

[HKShooter65]

 

[toddnjoyce]

I don't know how bad it will get here but seeing how big of a disaster it is in Italy right now does not give me a lot of hope. I pray the rest of Europe isn't right behind them.

About 1 in 4 Italians is over 60; there’s been huge growth in their relationship with China in the last couple of years, to the point it’s one of the most popular destinations for travel.

Italians are also hugely social as well. He’s got to be seen doing something, but their version of a lockdown/quarantine probably isn’t what we think of.

In other news, at least 44 Iranians have died drinking poor quality moonshine because Allah said it’ll kill the corona virus.

 

[Moonpie]

In other news, at least 44 Iranians have died drinking poor quality moonshine because Allah said it’ll kill the corona virus.

Wait????? Doesn't the Koran forbid drinking alcohol?

 

[SQLGeek]

but their version of a lockdown/quarantine probably isn’t what we think of.

I'm not sure ours would be any better frankly. I'm not trying to be an alarmist but I feel like we aren't taking this quite seriously enough, especially in the Houston metro.

I also question how equipped our hospitals are to handle a sudden influx knowing that there is a tendency of hospital administrators to keep beds mostly full.

One area of some comfort I suppose is that the population density of Houston is quite a bit lower than Milan's.

 

[HKShooter65]

168 more people dead in Italy just today.

Hopefully it's inflated or exaggerated news but it seems foolhardy to label it "fake" news, as some are inclined to do.

 

[toddnjoyce]

I'm not sure ours would be any better frankly. I'm not trying to be an alarmist but I feel like we aren't taking this quite seriously enough, especially in the Houston metro.

I also question how equipped our hospitals are to handle a sudden influx knowing that there is a tendency of hospital administrators to keep beds mostly full.

One area of some comfort I suppose is that the population density of Houston is quite a bit lower than Milan's.

Perspective. In the US, 806 diagnoses so far, with 28 deaths. Of those, all but six are directly connected to a nursing home in Washington state.

If you’re part of the population that is most susceptible (age 60+), prudent precautions would indicate limiting contact with others who show symptoms for the immediate future.

Really good info available from CDC at https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/index.html

As for population density, I look at the cruise ships as decent analogs. Diamond Princess has 3700 people on board, 696 diagnoses/7 deaths. Mort rate = 1.8%. Grand Princess: 3533 on board, 21 diagnoses to date, to early for a mort rate.

As the CDC says, the best defense is to limit contact with those that show symptoms...fever, cough, sneezing... wash your hands often, and keep the boogerpickers away from your eyes, nose, and mouth.

 

[HKShooter65]

In the OR we use strong antibacterial soaps or no-rinse hand sanitizers. Our hand sanitizers are stronger than the pure alcohol ones and we apply liberally.

What you use in the OR, such as Avagard or Chloroprep, may not work.

The chlorhexidine bactericidal effect is a result of the binding of the cationic moiety to negatively charged peptidoglycan bacterial cell walls.

Against many viruses (sans cell walls) such products are ineffective.

By most definitions viruses are arguably not even "living".
They are just a chemical packet of deliverable genetic information.



Here:
https://www.uptodate.com/contents/coronaviruses
Coronaviruses were not killed by chlorhexidine unless 62-71% ethanol was added.

Final answer..........
Tito's Vodka: No.
Baccardi 151 or Everclear: Yes.
Jaegermeister as an absolute last act of desperation!!!

 

[IXLR8]

A last ditch effort to make the entire population of the world beg for assistance from their governments.

Brilliantly played by the Davos attendee’s.

 

[kbaxter60]

They are just a chemical packet of deliverable genetic information.

Well played. You just described Hillary.

 

[Kar98]

I'm not sure ours would be any better frankly. I'm not trying to be an alarmist but I feel like we aren't taking this quite seriously enough, especially in the Houston metro.

I also question how equipped our hospitals are to handle a sudden influx knowing that there is a tendency of hospital administrators to keep beds mostly full.

One area of some comfort I suppose is that the population density of Houston is quite a bit lower than Milan's.

Houston's population density is estimated to be 3,662 people per square mile. Milan's: 20,000/sq mi. Dang.

 

[Big Green]

Perspective. In the US, 806 diagnoses so far, with 28 deaths. Of those, all but six are directly connected to a nursing home in Washington state.

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If you’re part of the population that is most susceptible (age 60+), prudent precautions would indicate limiting contact with others who show symptoms for the immediate future.

Really good info available from CDC at https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/index.html

As for population density, I look at the cruise ships as decent analogs. Diamond Princess has 3700 people on board, 696 diagnoses/7 deaths. Mort rate = 1.8%. Grand Princess: 3533 on board, 21 diagnoses to date, to early for a mort rate.

As the CDC says, the best defense is to limit contact with those that show symptoms...fever, cough, sneezing... wash your hands often, and keep the boogerpickers away from your eyes, nose, and mouth.

This x100.

The hysteria is getting old, too bad folks can’t see through the falling sky to see some facts and rational thinking.

@toddnjoyce You may need to start prefacing your statements with the great line that facts don’t care about your feelings.

 

[SQLGeek]

Perspective. In the US, 806 diagnoses so far, with 28 deaths. Of those, all but six are directly connected to a nursing home in Washington state.

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If you’re part of the population that is most susceptible (age 60+), prudent precautions would indicate limiting contact with others who show symptoms for the immediate future.

Really good info available from CDC at https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/index.html

As for population density, I look at the cruise ships as decent analogs. Diamond Princess has 3700 people on board, 696 diagnoses/7 deaths. Mort rate = 1.8%. Grand Princess: 3533 on board, 21 diagnoses to date, to early for a mort rate.

As the CDC says, the best defense is to limit contact with those that show symptoms...fever, cough, sneezing... wash your hands often, and keep the boogerpickers away from your eyes, nose, and mouth.

Yep. And this data is why I'm not entirely panicking. The cruise data specifically seems to have provided a handy, if unfortunate for the pax, laboratory to study.

It is still unsettling watching it play out in real time. Reminds me of waiting for Harvey to get here.

One thing is for sure, I'm not taking any fking cruises for a couple of years at least.

Oh and as a data geek, I've been living on that dashboard. I was disappointed to see they stopped breaking down the US cases by county.

This site, however, is for the US and Canada.

https://coronavirus.1point3acres.com/en

 

[TheDan]

Yeah, their government is having the entire country of Italy quarantined because of fake news.

They have a large elderly population, which is really the only demographic that should be worried about it. Plus they all hug and kiss each other, and live really close together. They could also just be over reacting. Italy is barely a first world country.

 

[Kar98]

They have a large elderly population, which is really the only demographic that should be worried about it. Plus they all hug and kiss each other, and live really close together. They could also just be over reacting. Italy is barely a first world country.

We'll see. Germany is about 8 days behind Italy on this, and the US maybe a week on top of that.

 

[RoadRunner]