Breaking news shots fired at trump rally

[Younggun]

The same FBI has doubts Trump was hit by a bullet...

FBI director suggests Donald Trump may not have been struck by bullet during assassination attempt at rally​

I don’t know that it really falls in to the category of having “doubts”. It reads more as “it’s possible that it was shrapnel” but they didn’t offer any evidence that it was anything but a bullet. Like what shrapnel may have come from. Maybe if they had shown where a bullet struck the stage and fragmented or something.

Just read to me as “we can’t prove it was the bullet” with no evidence to support it was anything else.

 

[General Zod]

I don’t know that it really falls in to the category of having “doubts”. It reads more as “it’s possible that it was shrapnel” but they didn’t offer any evidence that it was anything but a bullet. Like what shrapnel may have come from. Maybe if they had shown where a bullet struck the stage and fragmented or something.

Just read to me as “we can’t prove it was the bullet” with no evidence to support it was anything else.

A lot of people are spouting off with the idea it was "broken glass from a teleprompter"...but I've seen no mention of a teleprompter being hit, and there wasn't one between him and the shooter from what I've seen. So indeed, the question is "shrapnel from what", and if it was shrapnel, how and why did only one piece strike him?

 

[Mohawk600]

I don’t know that it really falls in to the category of having “doubts”. It reads more as “it’s possible that it was shrapnel” but they didn’t offer any evidence that it was anything but a bullet. Like what shrapnel may have come from. Maybe if they had shown where a bullet struck the stage and fragmented or something.

Just read to me as “we can’t prove it was the bullet” with no evidence to support it was anything else.

Does everyone just discount the still frame of the streaking bullet going past Trump's head?

 

[General Zod]

Does everyone just discount the still frame of the streaking bullet going past Trump's head?

Apparently.

 

[Paul Saver]

The same FBI has doubts Trump was hit by a bullet...

FBI director suggests Donald Trump may not have been struck by bullet during assassination attempt at rally​

 

[General Zod]

I don’t know that it really falls in to the category of having “doubts”. It reads more as “it’s possible that it was shrapnel” but they didn’t offer any evidence that it was anything but a bullet. Like what shrapnel may have come from. Maybe if they had shown where a bullet struck the stage and fragmented or something.

Just read to me as “we can’t prove it was the bullet” with no evidence to support it was anything else.

This shit, by the way, is what I'm sure we all expected when they announced the FBI would handle the investigation.

 

[Dred]

Does everyone just discount the still frame of the streaking bullet going past Trump's head?

Well stabilized, supersonic shrapnel? Happens all the time ... right?

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[Texas_Lone_Ranger]

Well stabilized, supersonic shrapnel? Happens all the time ... right?

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Hyperbole?

 

[Lead Belly]

The same FBI has doubts Trump was hit by a bullet...

FBI director suggests Donald Trump may not have been struck by bullet during assassination attempt at rally​

Pretty sure I mentioned that possibility dozens of pages ago.... Whatever the "truth" is; we will never know, but rest assured that they will downplay anything bad that happened to Trump.

 

[Mohawk600]

I bet the damage to Trump's ear can be matched to the shape of a 5.56

 

[Younggun]

This shit, by the way, is what I'm sure we all expected when they announced the FBI would handle the investigation.

I get that. But I’m also not sure what question was asked prior to the quoted statement from the FBI.

If they asked “are you positive he was struck by a bullet, could it have been something else” which would be in line with certain claims that he cut his own ear then the FBI response isn’t unreasonable. As from a purely factual standpoint, it’s technically possible that it was something else. Though highly unlikely.

 

[kbaxter60]

Apparently.

Looked like bad Photoshop to me.
But you should know, General.
Anyone estimate the trail length and assumed shutter speed to get idea of velocity?

 

[Younggun]

Looked like bad Photoshop to me.
But you should know, General.
Anyone estimate the trail length and assumed shutter speed to get idea of velocity?

That’s a nearly impossible question to answer without metadata from the original photo.

 

[easy rider]

The same FBI has doubts Trump was hit by a bullet...

FBI director suggests Donald Trump may not have been struck by bullet during assassination attempt at rally​

You mean to tell me that the FBI can spy on just about every detail of a persons life, yet they can't find a medical report saying he was shot in the ear?

I would think that the picture of the bullet flying at the level of his ear is more proof than the shrapnel theory, but hey, maybe it was just a very fast mosquito.

 

[kbaxter60]

That’s a nearly impossible question to answer without metadata from the original photo.

So, no then?

 

[Mohawk600]

You mean to tell me that the FBI can spy on just about every detail of a persons life, yet they can't find a medical report saying he was shot in the ear?

THIS RIGHT HEAR ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

 

[popper]

Doesn't matter - after the fact. Whither a bullet or brick. Security screwed up and is now covering up. Should NOT happen in the USA.

 

[easy rider]

Doesn't matter - after the fact. Whither a bullet or brick. Security screwed up and is now covering up. Should NOT happen in the USA.

Certainly, but his rise in support after the shooting, the deep state and the left will try anything to downplay it.

 

[Younggun]

So, no then?

I mean, you could guess at a shutter speed based on how fast trump would be moving his head. But depending on the lens used, ISO, and aperture settings there’s still a wide margin. A professional photographer could make assumptions based on what they might do in the same environment.

But you’re talking about taking the length of the bullet and estimating the length of the trail to determine actual distance traveled in the shot. Let’s call it 2’ (haven’t looked back at the photo).

2’/1/800 second is 1600fps
2’ per 1/1000second is 2000fps
1/1250 is 2500fps
1/2500 second is 5000fps

Basically, you could use an estimated shutter speed to prove it was either a bullet or a bug caught in the frame, depending on how you frame the argument. Though it would be a very straight flying bug. Or you could claim it was shrapnel at lower velocity be guessing a lower shutter speed.

With metadata though you could probably get a pretty good guess at the velocity if you know the bullet used and the size of trumps head for accurately estimating the trail length.

Without that though, you can’t really “prove” anything.

 

[TX oddball]

A lot of people are spouting off with the idea it was "broken glass from a teleprompter"...but I've seen no mention of a teleprompter being hit, and there wasn't one between him and the shooter from what I've seen. So indeed, the question is "shrapnel from what", and if it was shrapnel, how and why did only one piece strike him?

The stage after the shooting. Teleprompters intact, no other damage.