150 Armed Militia take over Oregon Federal Building

[bones_708]

Actually the I witness verifies the Feds indiscriminately shot into the vehicles hundreds of rounds just like Bonnie and Clyde. How about you just choke yourself either way.

No. They don't and B&C were shot from ambush. This was a police stop with lights and sirens. Everyone who got out of the car and surrendered was uninjured. The witness talked about the guy arguing about going to the Sheriff so they just didn't blast away but talked for a little bit at least. So no. Still want to bet? Set the amount. Oh and the personal attack? Go choke myself? Really? I'm sorry you have such a hard time admitting you're wrong but that is just not necessary.

 

[grasshopperglock]

You can't have it both ways. Maybe the only reason the feds want peace is for PR but that still means they want peace. That's your own logic in your mind, not mine.

I've never seen a federal agency with a soul. I can't see applying human emotions to a federal institution.

 

[bones_708]

I've never seen a federal agency with a soul. I can't see applying human emotions to a federal institution.

Well they do have real people that work there. Just normal people that haven't sold their souls to Satan or anything. That have kids and raise families and go to church.

 

[tired of sht]

Just like Ruby Ridge, so much for family and kids!

 

[zincwarrior]

Their ranks would have filled to overflow. They're not the only group in the area. Public outcry would have made a wave the Fed's don't want.



Something that even CNN couldn't put a positive spin on.

So you're admitting the government does want peace. Everyone wants peace.

 

[grasshopperglock]

Well they do have real people that work there. Just normal people that haven't sold their souls to Satan or anything. That have kids and raise families and go to church.

Those real people follow the rules of the job. They may have golden hearts but the policy is cold.

 

[zincwarrior]

I've never seen a federal agency with a soul. I can't see applying human emotions to a federal institution.

This is true, but they (those in charge) will want peace to avoid the PR. I think that is what he is saying-at least thats what I was saying.

 

[oldag]

Hard to say what an individual wants.

The ATF wanted to make a big splash at the Branch Davidian compound, with lots of press. They wanted to show that their agency should not be eliminated. They chose to go in guns blazing. Lots of people - LEO's, bystanders, lawbreakers alike - died. Got lots of press, just not the type they wanted. ATF management placed politics over the risk of lost lives.

And some individual LEO's (a tiny minority) like to use force. Just takes one to turn a stop into an incident.

Could have been avoidable. Could have been justified. Could be in the middle. None of us here knows enough of the facts to judge one way or the other.

 

[grasshopperglock]

This is true, but they (those in charge) will want peace to avoid the PR. I think that is what he is saying-at least thats what I was saying.

We're on the same page.


Here's a question. Name the last peaceful event attributed to the Fed's?

 

[zincwarrior]

My last trip to the tax office. I nearly fell asleep in line.


Can you please define your question better. Everything the fed does is peaceful unless its not.
*Fed Board meeting was peaceful.
*At least two people made it through the security theater at Intercontinental without harm.
*Deep in the dark underbelly of Bureau 666, some weights were weighed and some measures were taken.

 

[grasshopperglock]

Lol, and the mail man.


Here's another question more defined. Name a federal agency that hasn't received weapons? Shotguns, handguns, rifles(auto), vests, gas masks, mraps.....


Even the mailman is being militarized. Billions of rounds and weapons don't seem a very peaceful motive.

 

[Younggun]

Let's try to stay on topic.


Sent from my HAL 9000

 

[zincwarrior]

Edited to comply with Younggun.

Bacon!

 

[grasshopperglock]

And tomato
http://koin.com/2016/01/27/fbi-briefing-on-militia-arrests-01272016/


Fbi brief on the arrest

 

[grasshopperglock]

Heavy read.

http://www.freecapitalist.com/2016/01/27/the-ambush-and-murder-of-robert-lavoy-finicum/

 

[vmax]

I'm curious, how do you think the gov should handle the situation?

Was there ever a peaceful option?


Sent from my HAL 9000

Yeah
They could leave and go away

I'm sure there is anothere piece of land in some other state they can screw people over

 

[vmax]

Well they do have real people that work there. Just normal people that haven't sold their souls to Satan or anything. That have kids and raise families and go to church.

Nazis had families also
What's your point again?

 

[TX69]

Again, if they didn't have to save face in front of all of those cameras all these guys would be dead/prison weeks ago.

fify

 

[TheDan]

Heavy read.

http://www.freecapitalist.com/2016/01/27/the-ambush-and-murder-of-robert-lavoy-finicum/

I didn't care for the motivational speech, but the personal insights were interesting. Groups like these usually have informants in them. Perhaps the informants are used not only for intelligence gathering, but to steer the post-action narrative as well.

I'm trying to understand the logistics of how Ammon called his wife from the back seat of a cop car, tho. Did he have a phone keistered to avoid it being confiscated?

 

[grasshopperglock]

Better yet. This Mark McConnell was either flipped or a plant. It reeks of the release being dependent on spreading a narrative.