Rick Perry running for President

[Rum Runner]

That's one take on politics that the establishment would love for you to hold on to. If Obama wins, it's because the opposition didn't field the right candidate. The Republicans are responsible for their choice. If they continue to give us Dole, McCane, and now Romney, they and only they are responsible for Obama. THEY, the Republicans must quit rewarding time in grade and loyalty. They need to find the Adam Wests, Michelle Bachmanns, Ron Pauls, and others that have opposed their silly and failing ways for decades. We, the people, are tired of their politics as usual.

I want Obama replaced, but asking me to vote for another Bush is not a solution. We who live in flyover country as they call it are tired of the country club good old boys paradigm. We'd love a grand candidate from Texas, but, please, Governor Good Hair. He's so party dirty that it's an embarrassment.

If Trump runs as an independent, I don't blame him. I don't want the predictable outcome, but, as he has said, if the Republicans don't seed a valid candidate, he'll jump in. We lament Ross Perot, but the same thing happened then for all the same reasons. What's broke in the Republican party is the continuation of the same party solidarity that has gotten them beat for years. If the "T" formation ain't workin' change to the split-T, the veer, the pro-set, the swinging-gate, or something that will win the game. Yep, if you go to the Veer, there's not much use for fullbacks. All the Republican fullbacks need to get over it. It's not about preserving fullbacks, it's about winning the game!

I completely agree with you on this. However, when we are handed another McLame like last time, please tell me you are not going to vote Obama or throw you vote away.

The bottom line here is this:
If conservatives don't get in line behind whatever candidate is eventually the Repub nominee, we have exactly zero chance of dumping Obama and exactly nobody to blame but ourselves. Sure, it may not be a candidate that you like EVERYTHING about but it will be better than four more years of the total dumbass we have now. A vote for anybody else is a vote for Obama.

Yup. Let me paint my voting nightmare. I vote Ron Paul in the primary. Perry gets the nomination. Ron Paul decides to run as an independent/libertarian/whatever. Who do I vote for? Perry. We have to get Obamma out, whatever it takes.

If the vote gets split then Obama has a bigger shot at getting a second. What we need is to very strong candidates teaming up for POTUS/VPOTUS and taking the majority. Now if they would just put the egos aside and their heads together we would have no doubt Obama be would gone.

Yup.

Hey, Obama has given us the change he promised! C'mon guys....He's a good fella. He's got that nobel peace thingee. Besides, I love the way his ears grow when he lies.
Although, I'm still waiting for my free home, car, and cell phone. I'm sure he'll send them to me when he gets back from his latest vacation!

I'm sorry. When I, the great Obama, talk about "fair", it is only what is fair for the poor. They get all that. We have to take it from you to be able to give it to them. It's called "redistribution of wealth". They get the house, car and phone. You don't get shit. You get shit on.

 

[Clockwork]

Just because Obama is a bad leader does not mean that Bush was a good leader. Some people's memories are short... mine is not.

 

[Rum Runner]

Just because Obama is a bad leader does not mean that Bush was a good leader. Some people's memories are short... mine is not.

You are correct. Bush was bad, but he was better than Gore. McLame would have been worse then Bush, but he's better than Obama. The point of the image was that as bad as Bush was, I'd take him in a heartbeat over 4 more years of O'Bullshit.

 

[Rum Runner]

Just because Obama is a bad leader does not mean that Bush was a good leader. Some people's memories are short... mine is not.

And when have we had someone good to vote for? Best one was Reagan and he still increased the size of government, supported Sadam Huissain, enabled Osama Bin Laden, started the War on Drugs, etc.

It is never about voting for someone good. Its always voting for the lessor of 2 evils.

 

[zembonez]

If by some wild-ass chance a meteor hits Ron Paul and knocks him out of the race, allowing Rick Perry to get the nomination, I would vote for him over Obama.

Best frikkin post I have seen here in a long while!

We are stuck with the hold your nose and vote for the lesser of two evils here. The symbolism of voting for some splinter third party candidate might make us feel good, but all it does is reinforce the strength of the other side since most US independent voters are conservatives. I'm not saying I like it this way, but it's impossible to not see it as it is if you really look.

 

[Stumpy]

And when have we had someone good to vote for? Best one was Reagan and he still increased the size of government, supported Sadam Huissain, enabled Osama Bin Laden, started the War on Drugs, etc.

It is never about voting for someone good. Its always voting for the lessor of 2 evils.

true dat.

 

[markfh]

ABO voter here.

 

[M. Sage]

The bottom line here is this:

If conservatives don't get in line behind whatever candidate is eventually the Repub nominee, we have exactly zero chance of dumping Obama and exactly nobody to blame but ourselves. Sure, it may not be a candidate that you like EVERYTHING about but it will be better than four more years of the total dumbass we have now. A vote for anybody else is a vote for Obama.

Everybody wants their chosen candidate or nobody. All that does is divide us and give victory to the Dems.

Even if the nominee isn't a conservative? And even if the nominee is going to continue doing exactly what Obama is doing, just like how Obama is continuing with exactly the same things that Bush did?

 

[London]

Every time I walk away from casting my presidential vote I feel CHEATED. So **** it. I'm voting for Ron Paul this time. At least I won't be nauseous every time I think of who I felt I had to vote for.

This country is going the way of Rome anyway and I'll no longer play the game of trying to win us more borrowed time.

 

[GTRich94]

And when have we had someone good to vote for?
...
It is never about voting for someone good. Its always voting for the lessor of 2 evils.

This is exactly why Texas needs to move itself up in the primaries. What was our choice last time; McLame, Paul and Huckabee (who, IIRC, had just dropped out of the race). I'm tired of getting to cast a token vote to crown the R loser who just happens to be the last man standing. At least let me vote in the primary when it still matters. I remember Dan Patrick on his radio show saying we should go late in case there is a nail biter and we could make a difference. But given how most of the R primaries are winner take all, how many times have we actually had a chance to make a difference when we finally got a chance to vote. Move us up and give us a chance to vote when there is still a primary occurring and not just a coronation.

 

[London]

It is never about voting for someone good. Its always voting for the lessor of 2 evils.

"Hell, I never vote for anybody. I always vote against." -Groucho Marx

 

[TheDan]

Even if the nominee isn't a conservative? And even if the nominee is going to continue doing exactly what Obama is doing, just like how Obama is continuing with exactly the same things that Bush did?

Well, even a statist "R" would make more conservative SCOTUS appointments than any "D"

 

[zembonez]

It's a load of complete political shit to say that Brobama is doing the same thing Bush did. Complete and total BULLSHIT. That kind of tinfoil hat garbage will end up cratering the country. Brobama has spent us into the poorhouse to the tune of 25000 times what Bush spent.

Somebody please prove me wrong here. I'd love to see the "proof".

I was no Bush supporter, but Perry is hardly another Bush and he's one hell of a lot better than Obama.

 

[jgalvanatx]

Look at the first stimulus and the off the books war spending. Bush wasn't quite as bad, but almost:

National debt by U.S. presidential terms - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Be sure to scroll and read the bottom table by year. This isn't close to 25000 times, it's more like 5% more than where Bush left off. Compare 2008, 2009 (both Bush and Obama), and 2010.

 

[zembonez]

Not even close to factual. Obama's stimulus along pushes him over the top. Apparently the Wiki contributor arbitrarily picks what gets counted and what does not. Typical political agenda Wiki post.

 

[prometheus]

Whats with the strict adherence to partison politics anyway? Who cares what letter follows somones name? A shitbag is a shitbag no matter how you try to dress it up with non-issues. I still pose the question, why would somone invest thier own fortunes and livlihoods to win a chair(potus) that by design is supposed to be the highest order of selfless and patriotic public service? Presidents shouldnt have contests where the winner gets the office, presidents should be appointed by the people, and NO these rigged ass elections dont even come close to public appointment.

 

[Stumpy]

This country is going the way of Rome anyway and I'll no longer play the game of trying to win us more borrowed time.

dude, thats all we can do right now. America is hopeless. all we can do now is prolong the inevitable.

vote, buy ammo and toilet paper.

 

[jgalvanatx]

Not even close to factual. Obama's stimulus along pushes him over the top. Apparently the Wiki contributor arbitrarily picks what gets counted and what does not. Typical political agenda Wiki post.

It's all coming from the GAO. Here is a PDF with that stats. Look at total outlays.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/omb/budget/fy2012/assets/hist.pdf

Anyways, I'm really just saying all the presidents, since, hmm Coolidge have spent way too much money. I think both Bush and Obama were/are horrible presidents. Asking which is worse is like asking do you want a Yugo or a Pinto. I'd probably say Bush, but that's mainly based on the platform he ran on, which I agree with, and not what he actually did in office. And, the reasons I would chose Bush or any other mainstream RINO would reasons other than spending.

 

[Jakashh]

Wow, Yahoo actually did a decent, non biased article about him.

Seven ways Rick Perry wants to change the Constitution | The Ticket - Yahoo! News

 

[M. Sage]

Well, even a statist "R" would make more conservative SCOTUS appointments than any "D"

Really? Last I checked, statists appoint statists. The R judges are not really any better than the D judges. The majority of SCOTUS rulings don't come down to real Constitutional Law. They're partisan fights at this point.

It's a load of complete political shit to say that Brobama is doing the same thing Bush did. Complete and total BULLSHIT. That kind of tinfoil hat garbage will end up cratering the country. Brobama has spent us into the poorhouse to the tune of 25000 times what Bush spent.

Somebody please prove me wrong here. I'd love to see the "proof".

I was no Bush supporter, but Perry is hardly another Bush and he's one hell of a lot better than Obama.

Yes, he's spent more but he's doing it exactly the same way Bush did things. Stimulus? The way Bush did it. PATRIOT Act reinstated? Yep. GTMO still open, still got combat troops in Iraq (the "end of combat ops" is a bald-faced lie), still in Afghanistan with no mission? Yes to all that. Starting wars without reason or approval? Libya... Can't form a coherent sentence? Yep.

Accents and skin color are the most obvious difference between Obama and Bush. If you've got something that shows how different they are, I'm all ears.

Wow, Yahoo actually did a decent, non biased article about him.

Seven ways Rick Perry wants to change the Constitution | The Ticket - Yahoo! News

#1: Not so sure about that.
#2: Hell no. Destroys checks and balances and only an idiot would think it's actually a good idea.
#3: Hell yes.
#4: Hell yeah!
#5: **** yeah!
#6: **** no!
#7: WTF?