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  • 69ChevelleLSX

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    Seems strange in PA I’d like to see the numbers from Erie
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    Anyone wonder how some states can count votes on the day of an election while other states take several days to count their ballots?

    Each state has the ability to set their own laws and processes as to how to vote and how to count the results. Some are highly automated and very efficient, others not so much. Some states will start counting mail in voting as it arrives so they are not swamped on election night, some have requirements that mail in counting cannot begin until after polls close.

    Take NV for example. Not only can they not release any data until all polls everywhere in the state have closed, they also have their mail in ballot law based upon postmark, not date of receipt. As long as a ballot is post marked by election day it can arrive up to the following Saturday and still be tallied. That makes it impossible to release full NV results (because you don't know what hasn't been received yet) until at least the 12th. Further, if you receive a mail in ballot and the signature on the ballot doesn't match the signature on file with the state then the voter has until the 14th to come in and validate who they are and fix the signature. So that means you likely can't count 100% of the votes until nearly a week after the election. At that point NV law allows until the 17th to finish counting any of those last minute votes and submit for certification.

    Then you can drill down even further. In Nye county NV they have teams of three people in a room hand counting mail in ballots in stacks of 50 at a time (guy heading the elections there is all in on Dominion voting machines being rigged and such) and if the total they count doesn't match on all the races then they all start over, and if it still doesn't match the start over again, wash rinse repeat. They're literally taking two hours to count 50 ballots. As slow as that process is, it was slowed even further with the state supreme court stepped in and said they can't do that until after polls close (they were counting as mail in ballots arrived) so now we sit while they do that starting after the last poll closed back on the 8th.

    NV is pretty bad but there are many other states with similar process issues that draw things out. Further, we have a perception of "fast" counting in some states that aren't really that fast because the races aren't close. We will "call" a race for a particular candidate while there's still some percentage of the vote left to count in it because a statistical near impossibility for the difference to be made up by the trailing candidate. DeSantis is ahead by 20 points? We don't have to have 100% reporting to know Christ can't possible catch him. Depending on how much of a lead a candidate has and where the remaining votes are left outstanding (if the votes yet to come in are concentrated in areas that would heavily favor the candidate in the lead) that call can be made while a large percentage remain uncounted (near 10% in some cases) or can be when just a small number are left but would take a very long time to get through the remainder (last percent of reporting may take days in very efficient states). When races are very close (NV, AZ) you can't do that, statistically you still need nearly every vote to know who is going to carry the day.

    Personally despite the differences between states I like that each state (largely, there are limits and exceptions) gets to set their own voting laws. A big initiative this last congressional session by the Dems was to pass federal laws governing voting. I prefer decentralized approach where we can have more influence on what we believe is better or worse for our elections. You then take the good with the bad though, you'll have slow votes in NV because they want to take steps to prevent fraud, you'll have Philly being slow because they are required to check whether voters have voted elsewhere, you'll have TX being able to require ID to vote, you'll have MN allowing people to register and vote same day with no ID just because someone comes in with them and says "This person lives in this precinct, I can vouch for them." There are all kinds but we get to shape and evolve those processes locally as the need arises.

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    Massive GA Voter fraud kept Trump from winning but Kemp takes the state by 11 points. right.

    Trump took FL by 3%, DeSantis took FL by 20%. yeah.
    so if someone who is in charge of georgias election is a never trumper, they must also be a never kemper?
     

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    Personally despite the differences between states I like that each state (largely, there are limits and exceptions) gets to set their own voting laws.

    That's also how the Constitution requires it to be. State legislatures set voting laws, not the Federal government. The attempts by the Dems to decree voting laws nationwide was an unconstitutional overreach and would require an amendment to be done legally.
     

    Eastexasrick

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    That's also how the Constitution requires it to be. State legislatures set voting laws, not the Federal government. The attempts by the Dems to decree voting laws nationwide was an n nconstitutional overreach and would require an amendment to be done legally.
    And that was the perfect way to do it. They envisioned a federal government with very little power other than assembling an army, from the States, to protect the Union. Those august gentlemen would collectively shit their pants if they saw the cancer what has spawned from their vision of a benign, limited federal government.
     

    Tnhawk

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    And that was the perfect way to do it. They envisioned a federal government with very little power other than assembling an army, from the States, to protect the Union. Those august gentlemen would collectively shit their pants if they saw the cancer what has spawned from their vision of a benign, limited federal government.
    Their vision of a federal government is quite different than what it has become.
     

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    And that was the perfect way to do it. They envisioned a federal government with very little power other than assembling an army, from the States, to protect the Union. Those august gentlemen would collectively shit their pants if they saw the cancer what has spawned from their vision of a benign, limited federal government.

    See, that's the thing - they didn't see government as "benign" as all, but rather as a necessary evil. So it was placed within strict limits. And everything was fine until the 'progressives' decided government needed to be all-powerful and started chipping away at those limits a century or so ago.
     

    Younggun

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    I was a little curious when Abbot made comments about winning certain areas and the map showing them still blue. But making ground in those areas still matters. That combined with talk about shifts in hispanic voting trends lead me to do some digging.

    I sent the raw data to a guy that thinks making excel spreadsheets is a form of foreplay and he made some graphs.

    Red and blue lines show percentage of votes cast for each candidate for Texas governor. Grey line shows percentage increase or decrease in total votes cast. Picked typically blue counties along the Rio Grande as well as typically blue metro areas (Austin, Dallas, Houston)

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    Texas Dems vote in a kid who didn't campaign. Pennsylvania Dems not only elected a mentally handicapped stroke victim - they literally elected a corpse that was already cold and in the ground. Democrats are a cult - not a political party. Their candidate need not even be among the living to get the vote - just like you need not be among the living to cast a vote for the democrats. Its sick.
     

    AKM47

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    Texas Dems vote in a kid who didn't campaign. Pennsylvania Dems not only elected a mentally handicapped stroke victim - they literally elected a corpse that was already cold and in the ground. Democrats are a cult - not a political party. Their candidate need not even be among the living to get the vote - just like you need not be among the living to cast a vote for the democrats. Its sick.
    Remember even the dead votes for the Dems, I guess they were just returning the favor
     

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    Fetterman, Biden, this kid, and others just getting in because of the letter after their name.

    Cant the antichrist as president be far behind?

    To be fair, Republicans nominated a trans satanist anarchist a couple years ago before they realized what they’d done when it made national news.
     
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