FIFYThe idea of paying a premium for a 1911 and having to replace everything to make it serviceable is hilarious.
FIFYThe idea of paying a premium for a 1911 and having to replace everything to make it serviceable is hilarious.
Thorough. Thanks for sharingThe OP never stated what purpose.
For a defensive gun, other than OEM, personally I'd only trust either an Overwatch Precision trigger or the Apex Tactical one. Both are quality manufacturers with a good reputation and good degree of testing in the market.
I've had quite a few Overwatch triggers and never had a single problem. My current favorite from them is the FALX, which mirrors the same curved profile as stock, but feels like a much crisper pull due to the aluminum trigger shoe.
Timney
To be clear, if we're talking about defensive purposes, I would NEVER recommend the Timney trigger under any circumstances. It is not safe for an HD or carry gun IMO. They don't market it for that purpose anyways, so it's nothing against Timney.
That trigger is well-made, but the design introduces some potential issues and reduced margin for error when it comes to more of a hard use gun, like for defense/carry. Here's a bit more detail about the mechanics of this trigger. In testing on the below G17 (gen3 RTF2 w/ Ghost Edge connector), I was getting 2lbs 3oz on average. Maybe fun or cool for competition, but definitely has no business on a defensive gun.
Trigger with pre-travel stop fully released (no reduction)
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Trigger at rest, pre-travel stop fully released (no reduction)
The trigger bar still sits in the drop safety ledge. If pressed downward, it does not move the sear. The drop safety appears to be intact.
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Trigger partially pulled
This is the extent to which the trigger can be pulled before it is fully off the drop safety ledge and begins to press the sear downwards.
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Trigger and sear fully depressed
This is the extent to which the sear depresses. If you reference the back of the slot for the drop safety, between this and the previous picture you can get an idea of the degree of travel.
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Sear
Take note of the sear design. To clarify, there is nothing that restricts sear movement. This also converts the gun to a fully-tensioned striker. In the same vein as the SIG P320, theoretically it is possible that significant enough inertia from a drop could cause the sear to bounce enough to release the striker, independent of the trigger bar moving. As others have found this trigger does not appear to disable the firing pin safety. So the FPS would still be engaged and likely prevent the striker from fully falling.
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The most I have done is a 3.5 connector. I have shot a few Glocks with aftermarket triggers and I never felt they gave me anything that I couldnt get with just the connector, polishing and putting rounds down range. One G19 I owned (via trade) for awhile had a Saurez International trigger in it and while the weight of the pull was the same, it felt better than the stock trigger.Looking for some discussion from any of you who have upgraded your trigger. What did you use and were you happy with it? So far, the consensus I have heard is Timney, APEX, and CMC. What say you? Thanks in advance.
Good post. I agree on all counts.The most I have done is a 3.5 connector. I have shot a few Glocks with aftermarket triggers and I never felt they gave me anything that I couldnt get with just the connector, polishing and putting rounds down range. One G19 I owned for awhile had a Saurez International trigger in it and while the weight of the pull was the same, it felt better than the stock trigger.
Wish they'd just make an aftermarket trigger that just feels like a factory trigger after 5000+ rounds
Id love for the factory Glock trigger to be like a Walther PPQ trigger. They are really niceGood post. I agree on all counts.
The Timney is dang close to a very well-worn Glock trigger. But like I said, not a carry trigger IMO since it's a totally new design. That said, if I'm gonna trust a radical new trigger design, it would be a Timney, since they've been in the trigger business for a LOOOOONG time
The idea of paying a premium for a Glock and having to replace the trigger and the sights to make it serviceable is hilarious.
That still doesn't fix it.
Id love for the factory Glock trigger to be like a Walther PPQ trigger. They are really nice
This makes perfect sense to me. Really appreciate it. It looks like this is the route I'll be taking.For most of my Glocks that I used for competition, defense, and whatnot, I just put a Ghost connector in them and polished everything up. I have played around with other triggers and honestly none of them really felt THAT much better than just a good polish job and the connector.
Spend whatever you want to spend, but at the end of the day you will still have a Glock trigger. So for me I would rather spend less to have a Glock trigger rather than more.
I never said it wasn't serviceable or that it was lacking in anything. It was a question for discussion, not a complaint about what my pistol doesn't do. I also didn't pay a "premium", what ever that definition that might be. More than a Taurus?The idea of paying a premium for a Glock and having to replace the trigger and the sights to make it serviceable is hilarious.
Glocks are perfectly serviceable and if anyone thinks they are a "premium" firearm or they are paying a premium to get them, well.... they haven't been around all that many firearms I'm afraid.I never said it wasn't serviceable or that it was lacking in anything. It was a question for discussion, not a complaint about what my pistol doesn't do. I also didn't pay a "premium", what ever that definition that might be. More than a Taurus?
Glocks are perfectly serviceable and if anyone thinks they are a "premium" firearm or they are paying a premium to get them, well.... they haven't been around all that many firearms I'm afraid.
I have a bunch of Glocks that work just fine for what they are. A few of them are cruising up on 30-40k rounds and they work just as good as they did when they were new. Sure they are no frills, kind of ugly to look at, and feel like holding onto plastic brick; but they work. I know, as I have a bunch of them.
I also have a 2011 that is north of 40k rounds all still while being 100% how it was from the factory, springs and everything. I also have a 1911 that has been through 2 years of competition and I actually have never taken it apart to clean it. I just keep adding more oil and seeing if it'll keep on going. But those two guns were NOT cheap. As with many things in life, you seem to get what you pay for.
With the Glock, you are paying that money for a really well designed gun that has no frills at all but will work till the end of time. And for that, they deliver.
Kinda reminds of the girl in high school who didnt look like a prom queen but performed like a prom queen when it countsGlocks are perfectly serviceable and if anyone thinks they are a "premium" firearm or they are paying a premium to get them, well.... they haven't been around all that many firearms I'm afraid.
I have a bunch of Glocks that work just fine for what they are. A few of them are cruising up on 30-40k rounds and they work just as good as they did when they were new. Sure they are no frills, kind of ugly to look at, and feel like holding onto plastic brick; but they work. I know, as I have a bunch of them.
I also have a 2011 that is north of 40k rounds all still while being 100% how it was from the factory, springs and everything. I also have a 1911 that has been through 2 years of competition and I actually have never taken it apart to clean it. I just keep adding more oil and seeing if it'll keep on going. But those two guns were NOT cheap. As with many things in life, you seem to get what you pay for.
With the Glock, you are paying that money for a really well designed gun that has no frills at all but will work till the end of time. And for that, they deliver.
Loved my Suarez International with NP3 trigger bar and connector so much, I bought another.Looking for some discussion from any of you who have upgraded your trigger. What did you use and were you happy with it? So far, the consensus I have heard is Timney, APEX, and CMC. What say you? Thanks in advance.