Ukraine invasion

[oldag]

Is that Ukranians shooting Russians, or Russians shooting Ukranians?

Any timestamp on the video?

 

[Younggun]

I doubt I’d have much mercy if my country were invaded.

Is it wrong, probably. Would I care in that situation. Probably not.

 

[Younggun]

“Kneecapping” thread merged.

 

[gll]

The inhumanely killed pig thread should be merged with this one...

If America was invaded, I wouldn't be military, due to age and condition, but, if by some some miracle I encountered invading troops, survived, and took any alive, I would probably be forced to dispatch them, simply because I could not hold them. I would do it as humanely as possible, and that, regardless of what they had done, just like I would a pig.

Under similar circumstances, I would expect our military to take prisoners, and treat them humanely, even if ultimately it was necessary to dispatch them, for similar reasons to mine.

I cannot, under any circumstance, as a God fearing man, not even a Christian, justify what I saw in that video. How someone, who claims Jesus as there savior could do or condone that, I cannot understand.

As has been said, there is a lot more dirty business going on over there than we know, and that is good enough reason why we should not ally with anyone trying to pull us into that war, even if it means abrogating treaties, or withdrawing from NATO...,

but, that is not what will happen... The global elite that run our government have a plan for global control, and Russia is in their way.

 

[GeorgeS]

There is a fifth column of ethnic Russian separatists, whom Putin is claiming to have invaded to protect. There are similar separatists in Moldova, Ossetia (the part of Georgia taken in 2008) and elsewhere (the Baltics have lots of ethnic Russians there).

I don't speak Ukrainian or Russian but I seriously doubt those are regular-army Russian prisoners as their uniforms lack any insignia or unit patches.

If they're "little green men", fifth columnists, or irregulars, they get what they deserve.

 

[toddnjoyce]

If this is real - and it sure shit looks like it is, ….

Wait, I thought everything from either side was propaganda. Is this the first piece of footage I’m supposed to believe is verifiably accurate?

 

[cycleguy2300]

If this is real - and it sure shit looks like it is, THESE are REAL "war criminals" - **** the Ukraine and the Ukranians who tolerate this shit. WE, the US, need to stay out of this little conflict altogether. No more wasting American resources. We are dealing with double digit inflation, but somehow we have billions of dollars to line the pockets of Ukranians and Biden Inc, I mean, equip them for their fight... no, not sorry. Stop sending guns, ammo, money, and don't be sending Americans to die in this stupid conflict. Anyone going over there to volunteer is an idiot who will die in vane.

Ukraine is losing - Zelensky is now trying to get Putin to sit down to discuss terms. Winners don't do that. He knows they are losing. Russia hasn't even rolled out the good soldiers or equipment, aside from some Chechens. The numbers being reported of Russian equipment and lives lost seem as inflated as COVID numbers. The ship allegedly sunk by shore fired unguided artillery - wasn't. Its afloat and well. Ghost of Kiev is a lie. Its all propaganda - the puppet masters are trying to drag us into their damned war.

Actually when you look at the numbers of confirmed equipment kills, the Russians are using a lot of their good stuff, the "crappy conscripts" just doesn't hold water.

The simple answer is Russia had some major structural problems and is not near as strong as raw numbers suggest. Much of their spending is on nukes and their navy. Ukraine has no foreign obligations and its entire defense budget was able to be directed at stopping the invasion they knew would someday come.

https://youtube.com/channel/UCC3ehuUksTyQ7bbjGntmx3Q

This guy is a gamer/analyst with no military background but he does a great job explaining what is being seen without any big assumptions like the "just wait for the good troops to get there"

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[oldag]

but, that is not what will happen... The global elite that run our government have a plan for global control, and Russia is in their way.

 

[oldag]

Actually when you look at the numbers of confirmed equipment kills, the Russians are using a lot of their good stuff, the "crappy conscripts" just doesn't hold water.

The simple answer is Russia had some major structural problems and is not near as strong as raw numbers suggest. Much of their spending is on nukes and their navy. Ukraine has no foreign obligations and its entire defense budget was able to be directed at stopping the invasion they knew would someday come.

https://youtube.com/channel/UCC3ehuUksTyQ7bbjGntmx3Q

This guy is a gamer/analyst with no military background but he does a great job explaining what is being seen without any big assumptions like the "just wait for the good troops to get there"

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A good article pointed out that the massive corruption in the Russian government and military has bled off a significant portion of the supposed huge spending on defense.

 

[Sam7sf]

The inhumanely killed pig thread should be merged with this one...

If America was invaded, I wouldn't be military, due to age and condition, but, if by some some miracle I encountered invading troops, survived, and took any alive, I would probably be forced to dispatch them, simply because I could not hold them. I would do it as humanely as possible, and that, regardless of what they had done, just like I would a pig.

Under similar circumstances, I would expect our military to take prisoners, and treat them humanely, even if ultimately it was necessary to dispatch them, for similar reasons to mine.

I cannot, under any circumstance, as a God fearing man, not even a Christian, justify what I saw in that video. How someone, who claims Jesus as there savior could do or condone that, I cannot understand.

As has been said, there is a lot more dirty business going on over there than we know, and that is good enough reason why we should not ally with anyone trying to pull us into that war, even if it means abrogating treaties, or withdrawing from NATO...,

but, that is not what will happen... The global elite that run our government have a plan for global control, and Russia is in their way.

Russia is in the way? They want it just as much as any other Clinton like government. Putin and Clintons; only difference is how they like to kill people. This war is starting to unravel in very suspicious ways.

 

[cycleguy2300]

A good article pointed out that the massive corruption in the Russian government and military has bled off a significant portion of the supposed huge spending on defense.

Yes, corruption is not an insignificant loss from what I hear

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[Sam7sf]

Lol I searched YouTube just to see what would pop up.

 

[pronstar]

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[pronstar]

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[Sam7sf]

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No, they aren’t close to what nazi and Japanese did.

 

[Sasquatch]

No, they aren’t close to what nazi and Japanese did.

Read the twitter thread - those Ukranians are Azov - they're literal neo-Nazis - continuing the traditions of ze fuhrer it seems. ****'em all. Maybe all those soy powered ANTIFA types all over Portland, Seattle, Houston, Austin et al will load up and head to Ukraine to fight real, actual neo-Nazis?

 

[Sam7sf]

Read the twitter thread - those Ukranians are Azov - they're literal neo-Nazis - continuing the traditions of ze fuhrer it seems. ****'em all. Maybe all those soy powered ANTIFA types all over Portland, Seattle, Houston, Austin et al will load up and head to Ukraine to fight real, actual neo-Nazis?

No I’m just stating a fact. What’s happening are terrible but some of the stuff that happened with experiments on people are something out of a horror movie.

Shock value is nothing new. We talk about Ukraine doing this and that but somewhere isis and the cartel are calling em rookies. Would people just put a POW out of his misery without the internet? This shock factor shit seems to be addictive. I was just making a point to not forget where this can go and don’t forget how terrifying people can become. The Japanese in ww2 took the cake imo.

I think it’s time the earth just gets hit by an asteroid.

 

[Sam7sf]

Civilization is definitely a failed experiment

 

[Sasquatch]

No I’m just stating a fact. What’s happening are terrible but some of the stuff that happened with experiments on people are something out of a horror movie.

Shock value is nothing new. We talk about Ukraine doing this and that but somewhere isis and the cartel are calling em rookies. Would people just put a POW out of his misery without the internet? This shock factor shit seems to be addictive. I was just making a point to not forget where this can go and don’t forget how terrifying people can become. The Japanese in ww2 took the cake imo.

I think it’s time the earth just gets hit by an asteroid.

The Japanese from the late 19th into the mid 20th century were indeed terrifying in their cruelty, especially to prisoners. Something about that culture just left them perpetually fucked up - now instead of torturing prisoners and conducting inhuman experiments, they've transitioned into some really disturbing genres of pornography and cartoons, plus weird behavioral/societal norms, like vending machines full of used panties.

There is still a lot of hatred among the Koreans and Chinese for Japanese people, because of what their great grandparents did. China at least maintained their culture and cultural identity, whereas the Japanese did a far better job of completely destroying and removing the identity and culture of the Korean people - so much so that the Koreans wound up going overboard in trying to re-establish their idenity by just Koreanizing Japanese and Chinese things, because of things they'd lost thru generations of brutal Japanese occupation.

The OG Nazis likewise did very horrific things - and I wouldn't be at all surprised to learn that modern neo-Nazis are doing similarly horrific things on a smaller scale. Torturing prisoners on the battlefield *is* kids play compared to the things done in camps and labs, but don't think that's the only atrocities being committed. ISIS, the Mexican / South American cartels, and other evil groups are all just fingers of Satan's hand.

 

[toddnjoyce]

I’m still trying to figure out how to know what to believe from which source.