Ukraine invasion

[ian]

Is the Ukraine thing still a thing? Hasn't been in the news cycle for a couple weeks now...

(NSFW) Battle For Cyclops (Part 2)

The Ukrainian K-2 unit has released a second compelling installment of what will be a three part battle overview video.

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[cycleguy2300]

(NSFW) Battle For Cyclops (Part 2)

The Ukrainian K-2 unit has released a second compelling installment of what will be a three part battle overview video.

funker530.com

Tune in

I think logistics will be more important than normal when the battle to liberate Crimea happens. The russians would have only one route to bring supplies in, a long bridge and it has been shown to be vulnerable to attack.

I think the main fight will be to get to Crimea. Once a Ukrianian foothold is gained, I dont think russia will be able to continue their occupation.

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[ian]

How does anything I said make you think I’m a leftist?

Putin is the poster boy for late stage communism. You seem to be a fan.

 

[Havok1]

Tell me what you think the reality of the war is.

I’ve posted enough about the difference between what is being perceived by members in this thread vs what’s actually taking place in the past. You can go back and reread the thread.

Putin is the poster boy for late stage communism. You seem to be a fan.

I’ve never made a single post indicating I’m a “fan” of putin or communism. Not helping your credibility here.

 

[ian]

I’ve posted enough about the difference between what is being perceived by members in this thread vs what’s actually taking place in the past. You can go back and reread the thread.

I’ve never made a single post indicating I’m a “fan” of putin or communism. Not helping your credibility here.

Why would you write a paragraph saying you won't write a paragraph? Just give a quick summary of how you thought the war would go in the beginning, how its going, and how you want things to go in the future.

You made lots of posts indicating you are a fan of putin. If you are a fan of putin you by default are a fan of late stage communism.

 

[cycleguy2300]

I’ve posted enough about the difference between what is being perceived by members in this thread vs what’s actually taking place in the past. You can go back and reread the thread.

I’ve never made a single post indicating I’m a “fan” of putin or communism. Not helping your credibility here.

And you know you perceive what is happening there more correctly than "us" because you...

Read something?

You have first hand knowledge (i.e. were there)?

You have friends there?

Just have a natural gift of perception?



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[cycleguy2300]

Improvements each day!

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[leVieux]

Putin is the poster boy for late stage communism. You seem to be a fan.

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Putin has publicly rejected ”communism”.

 

[A1Oni]

still talking about this stupid war I see, I wish we would stop sending money to it.

 

[cycleguy2300]

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Putin has publicly rejected ”communism”.

Communism, socialism, fascism etc are all Statist governments where the individual rights are lesser than governmental power and Putin is DEFINITELY a Statist. Whether he "disavows" communism or not, he and his government use the government and economy to prevent individuals from voicing opposition to his regime. The russian government owns over half the capital of the russian stock market.

The Role of State Corporations in the Russian Economy

www.wilsoncenter.org

"Russian state corporations enjoy definite advantages within Russia. They have access to cheap credit (from state-controlled financial institutions) that other companies do not have. They also enjoy an implicit state guarantee for their debts and other activities. Perhaps most importantly, according to Aslund, they function as a mechanism of political control and rent extraction in Putin’s system of vertical power by enriching allies and neutralizing any opposition (such as Yukos’ former owner, Mikhail Khodorkovsky)."

russia is not a free country and besides owning most of the business in russia, they have some of the most restricted media and speech laws in the world.

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[Havok1]

And you know you perceive what is happening there more correctly than "us" because you...

Read something?

You have first hand knowledge (i.e. were there)?

You have friends there?

Just have a natural gift of perception?



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multiple methods, and being over a year into this war now, we have had plenty of time to see what has and has not been shown to be true/misleading. There is also a difference between what people want to be true, and what actually is true. Examples of this are claims made that I’m a “leftist” or a “fan” of putin. There is no logical reason for believing either of those claims, but that’s the thought process here.

I suppose to some extent this could just be considered confirmation bias.

 

[leVieux]

Communism, socialism, fascism etc are all Statist governments where the individual rights are lesser than governmental power and Putin is DEFINITELY a Statist. Whether he "disavows" communism or not, he and his government use the government and economy to prevent individuals from voicing opposition to his regime. The russian government owns over half the capital of the russian stock market.

The Role of State Corporations in the Russian Economy

www.wilsoncenter.org

"Russian state corporations enjoy definite advantages within Russia. They have access to cheap credit (from state-controlled financial institutions) that other companies do not have. They also enjoy an implicit state guarantee for their debts and other activities. Perhaps most importantly, according to Aslund, they function as a mechanism of political control and rent extraction in Putin’s system of vertical power by enriching allies and neutralizing any opposition (such as Yukos’ former owner, Mikhail Khodorkovsky)."

russia is not a free country and besides owning most of the business in russia, they have some of the most restricted media and speech laws in the world.

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BUT,

That specific form of “statism” is what was originally known as “FASCISM”, and was the mortal enemy of communism.

Recall that Hitler & Mussolini were archetypical Fascists, and despised all communists.

In retrospect, from today’s milieu, we can’t make out much of a difference; but it is / was there and was big to them. Both shared many common features.

I have zero idea of what Putin’s current ideology is. He was a very bad guy; but recently his public statements have been “reasonable” and restrained, whether we agree, or not.

Putin presents himself and the “new” Russia as entities which could be reasoned with. Who knows ?

leVieux
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[Eastexasrick]

He is KGB. How he presents himself vs what is doing may conflict. Atrocities in the name of the new Russia. Same as it ever was.

 

[Johnny Diamond]

Communism, socialism, fascism etc are all Statist governments where the individual rights are lesser than governmental power and Putin is DEFINITELY a Statist. Whether he "disavows" communism or not, he and his government use the government and economy to prevent individuals from voicing opposition to his regime. The russian government owns over half the capital of the russian stock market.

The Role of State Corporations in the Russian Economy

www.wilsoncenter.org

"Russian state corporations enjoy definite advantages within Russia. They have access to cheap credit (from state-controlled financial institutions) that other companies do not have. They also enjoy an implicit state guarantee for their debts and other activities. Perhaps most importantly, according to Aslund, they function as a mechanism of political control and rent extraction in Putin’s system of vertical power by enriching allies and neutralizing any opposition (such as Yukos’ former owner, Mikhail Khodorkovsky)."

russia is not a free country and besides owning most of the business in russia, they have some of the most restricted media and speech laws in the world.

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Curiously sounds like the CCP, and others of recent note in particular?

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[cycleguy2300]

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Putin presents himself and the “new” Russia as entities which could be reasoned with. Who knows ?

leVieux
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russian state media certainly tries to paint that picture, however his exploits in Georgia, Kazakhstan, Ukraine is proof it is not the case.

Putin is a imperial statist tyrant, cannot be trusted and should not be reasoned with.

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[CavCop]

multiple methods, and being over a year into this war now, we have had plenty of time to see what has and has not been shown to be true/misleading. There is also a difference between what people want to be true, and what actually is true. Examples of this are claims made that I’m a “leftist” or a “fan” of putin. There is no logical reason for believing either of those claims, but that’s the thought process here.

I suppose to some extent this could just be considered confirmation bias.

You have to remember most of this war is based on propaganda and media manipulation. Even video games were used well to gaslight, along with female models and air-soft guns…

We know some lies, based on hundreds of leaked documents on line (they said 50, but some news agencies had access to over 100 pages that’s contradicted that Ukraine was winning.

If I was a betting person, other countries are going to highly equip Ukraine to hit Russia in the next few months, but Russian doctrine will blow up the gear with tactical nukes. Be interesting to see what NATO does then, since they know Russian doctrine.

The M1 tanks, M2 IFV’s and AH-64’s should be very deadly in skilled hands. We used AH-64’s to punch into Iraq as they avoid radar, and can defeat fighter jets, even the best we have. But it’s more tactics than just the equipment.

 

[studenygreg]

I think zitlynnski should start a go fund me. That way the people what wish to donate can and those who don't want to do not have to see their money pissed away.

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[cycleguy2300]

The M1 tanks, M2 IFV’s and AH-64’s should be very deadly in skilled hands. We used AH-64’s to punch into Iraq as they avoid radar, and can defeat fighter jets, even the best we have. But it’s more tactics than just the equipment.

Waitagoshdarnminute...

What happened to M1s being blown up daily from top shots with rpg7s? Which the number and mechanism of losses show is total BS.

No one is going to be operating rotary or fixed wings over the front anytime soon. The AA is too high of a risk for either side. The tactic that matters for air assets is to stay away from the front.

Were you even in the military??? So many things you say are highly suspect...

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[ian]

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Putin has publicly rejected ”communism”.

Putler wouldn't be where he is today without communism. Today, the former soviet leaders can't brag they used communism to steal the pensions of 10's of millons folks living in ex-soviet countries.

 

[ian]

I think zitlynnski should start a go fund me. That way the people what wish to donate can and those who don't want to do not have to see their money pissed away.

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Have you calculated how much each person in the united states has given?