Ukraine invasion

[popper]

Trump threatening sanctions on Mexico and magically the caravans heading to the U.S. border started slowing.
His ' sanction' was shut down the border crossing which would immediately cut their GDP in half and reduce the El Paso workforce by half.

 

[gll]

The Cover-up in Ukraine is Getting Worse...

 

[easy rider]

The Cover-up in Ukraine is Getting Worse...

Yeah, that's much of what I've found out about the people we're supposedly helping. Wouldn't it be great if the U.S. was able to help create another Nazi nation?

 

[gll]

Yeah, that's much of what I've found out about the people we're supposedly helping. Wouldn't it be great if the U.S. was able to help create another Nazi nation?

I think people should be asking themselves who is really running the Russian/Ukraine narrative in the U.S. We know Biden and Obama are just low level puppets, but even puppets can benefit from having their strings pulled by their masters..., as we have seen.

One puppet master whose name we know, but haven't been hearing so much about lately, is George Soros. I know he's not the only puppet master out there, but he is one whose ties to Ukraine are known.

Consider, for instance, his Open Society Forum...

The Open Society Foundations in Ukraine

The International Renaissance Foundation in Ukraine is part of the Open Society Foundations and has been supporting Ukraine since 1990. It helps fund local groups working on issues from access to health care and education to the fight against corruption.

www.opensocietyfoundations.org

Who here thinks George Soros is working for the benefit of Americans in anything? We have the whole BLM fiasco as evidence against him, but apparently that narrative has run it's course... And, he's been working in Ukraine for decades, and with the aid of the puppets he controls in the U.S., managed to instigate a coup and install a purpose built puppet there in 2014...

I say "he", but realize that he is only one of many globalists that are working toward the subjugation of the whole world...

Putin doesn't scare me near as much...

 

[Grumps21]

All else aside, sanctions have never accomplished anything really.

A perfect example of this is 90 miles south of Florida. The people might suffer, but those in power will never do without.

 

[easy rider]

I think people should be asking themselves who is really running the Russian/Ukraine narrative in the U.S. We know Biden and Obama are just low level puppets, but even puppets can benefit from having their strings pulled by their masters..., as we have seen.

One puppet master whose name we know, but haven't been hearing so much about lately, is George Soros. I know he's not the only puppet master out there, but he is one whose ties to Ukraine are known.

Consider, for instance, his Open Society Forum...
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The Open Society Foundations in Ukraine

The International Renaissance Foundation in Ukraine is part of the Open Society Foundations and has been supporting Ukraine since 1990. It helps fund local groups working on issues from access to health care and education to the fight against corruption.

www.opensocietyfoundations.org

Who here thinks George Soros is working for the benefit of Americans in anything? We have the whole BLM fiasco as evidence against him, but apparently that narrative has run it's course... And, he's been working in Ukraine for decades, and with the aid of the puppets he controls in the U.S., managed to instigate a coup and install a purpose built puppet there in 2014...

I say "he", but realize that he is only one of many globalists that are working toward the subjugation of the whole world...

Putin doesn't scare me near as much...

Careful, You'll be labelled a cabal conspiracy theorist.

 

[Renegade]

And now thy finally admit the Ghost of Kiev was hoax.

Heroic ‘Ghost of Kyiv’ fighter doesn’t actually exist, Ukraine admits​

Heroic ‘Ghost of Kyiv’ fighter doesn’t actually exist, Ukraine admits

After several news outlets last week identified the legendary, mysterious, hero fighter pilot as a 29-year-old dad recently killed in battle with the Russians, military officials acknowledged Satur…

nypost.com

 

[single stack]

How much of $33billion for Ukrainian goes to Hunter?

 

[gll]

Here’s what I found at the reported ‘mass grave’ near Mariupol, by Eva Bartlett

In Gaza

and beyond

ingaza.wordpress.com

 

[cycleguy2300]

The Cover-up in Ukraine is Getting Worse...

Explain why AZOV is neo NAZI?

something other than ancient symbols please...

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[cycleguy2300]

I think people should be asking themselves who is really running the Russian/Ukraine narrative in the U.S. We know Biden and Obama are just low level puppets, but even puppets can benefit from having their strings pulled by their masters..., as we have seen.

One puppet master whose name we know, but haven't been hearing so much about lately, is George Soros. I know he's not the only puppet master out there, but he is one whose ties to Ukraine are known.

Consider, for instance, his Open Society Forum...
View attachment 317200

The Open Society Foundations in Ukraine

The International Renaissance Foundation in Ukraine is part of the Open Society Foundations and has been supporting Ukraine since 1990. It helps fund local groups working on issues from access to health care and education to the fight against corruption.

www.opensocietyfoundations.org

Who here thinks George Soros is working for the benefit of Americans in anything? We have the whole BLM fiasco as evidence against him, but apparently that narrative has run it's course... And, he's been working in Ukraine for decades, and with the aid of the puppets he controls in the U.S., managed to instigate a coup and install a purpose built puppet there in 2014...

I say "he", but realize that he is only one of many globalists that are working toward the subjugation of the whole world...

Putin doesn't scare me near as much...

What is funny is in a poll of Germans, only the far left (i.e the commies) thought intervention in Ukraine was bad...

I think the left here is so tied to Trump = Russia, that they have to support Ukraine. Not to mention the kickbacks I am sure they are getting...

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[gll]

Explain why AZOV is neo NAZI?

something other than ancient symbols please...

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Wasn't me who said they were neo-nazis... that was the U.S. Congress (Republican in 2017). The charge is nothing new, and pretty wide spread, with a substantial amount of support, and even it's own spokeman in 2015 told USA Today that 'only' 10 - 20% of it's members were nazis...

All things considered, I think I'll just leave it to you to prove to yourself that they are not; it won't be easy.

 

[cycleguy2300]

Wasn't me who said they were neo-nazis... that was the U.S. Congress (Republican in 2017). The charge is nothing new, and pretty wide spread, with a substantial amount of support, and even it's own spokeman in 2015 told USA Today that 'only' 10 - 20% of it's members were nazis...

All things considered, I think I'll just leave it to you to prove to yourself that they are not; it won't be easy.

And you trust Congress now?

I bet I could "define" most of you here the same way depending on the metric used...

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[benenglish]

Explain why AZOV is neo NAZI?

I have no personal knowledge. However, it seems that the notion that AZOV is neo-Nazi is generally accepted by most folks who have cared enough to do some research.

Note the "it seems." An illustrative example can be found in my prior post here. Ian wouldn't kill off such an important project unless he felt that the politics were simply too toxic to process. To me, that says a lot.

 

[ian]

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All information from a war made publicly available by one side is "propagandized". I have no way of knowing if it is true/real, or how much is true/real.

We all know that there are many ways of deceiving via altered videos, etc. And, what would the other side be showing us ?

Point is that it is very very difficult for us to tell exactly what is going-on in Ukraine.

leVieux

Do you think the police in the video staged the arrest of the man holding a blank piece of paper?

If you want to believe anti putin protesters aren't being arrested in Russia, that's ok with me.

 

[popper]

Ukraine Says it Destroyed Two Russian Patrol Boats on Monday

A Ukrainian Bayraktar drone destroyed two Russian Raptor-class patrol ships in the Black Sea on Monday, Ukraine's military chief said.

www.newsmax.com

More interesting stuff.

 

[cycleguy2300]

I have no personal knowledge. However, it seems that the notion that AZOV is neo-Nazi is generally accepted by most folks who have cared enough to do some research.

Note the "it seems." An illustrative example can be found in my prior post here. Ian wouldn't kill off such an important project unless he felt that the politics were simply too toxic to process. To me, that says a lot.

I think:

That 10-20% "being neo-NAZIs" isn't all that high. Is it card carrying Goosesteppers or is it people who simply have one or two lightly held views? What percentage of Americans forced masks down our throats? Those same people would have turned us in for hiding Jews... does that make them NAZIs? Should they stop others from help us if we needed it?

Hitler and NAZIism has been anathama and as unspeakable for too long. It was evil people being evil people, which is what evil people have always done and always will do. Anyone not an "anti-Fascist", is a NAZI according to some.

I assuredly have no sympathy for NAZIs or NAZIism, but the politics around A3ob really don't matter to me while they are fighting for their homeland.

Tldr: longterm the politics of A3OB should be looked at, short-term they are fighting for their country the same as we did in 1812 and their politics (former politics as they are no longer a militia, but formal army) should not dissuade support of the main goal

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[oldag]

All else aside. I have admiration for the soldiers and people of Ukraine. They are fighting valiantly and showing courage, regardless of what some here may think of their country or government.

 

[gll]

I think:

That 10-20% "being neo-NAZIs" isn't all that high. Is it card carrying Goosesteppers or is it people who simply have one or two lightly held views? What percentage of Americans forced masks down our throats? Those same people would have turned us in for hiding Jews... does that make them NAZIs? Should they stop others from help us if we needed it?

Hitler and NAZIism has been anathama and as unspeakable for too long. It was evil people being evil people, which is what evil people have always done and always will do. Anyone not an "anti-Fascist", is a NAZI according to some.

I assuredly have no sympathy for NAZIs or NAZIism, but the politics around A3ob really don't matter to me while they are fighting for their homeland.

Tldr: longterm the politics of A3OB should be looked at, short-term they are fighting for their country the same as we did in 1812 and their politics (former politics as they are no longer a militia, but formal army) should not dissuade support of the main goal

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The 10 - 20% was what was admitted by their own spokesman, I would think that an underestimate... It really doesn't matter whether those terrorists are strictly 'nazis' anyway... , but whether they are anti-semites, anti-ethnic Russian, and have been terrorizing those ethnic people in Ukraine since even before they helped instigate the Soros and U.S. driven coup in 2014 that ultimately split Ukraine along ethnic lines.

I really think you should look at George Soros' influences in Ukraine since 1990... It's not unlike what he has been doing in the U.S. using Antifa and BLM, all "to promote economic development that advances social and racial justice, sustainability, and democracy".

 

[gll]

Explosions reported in Russia across the border from Ukraine