Denied firearm at Academy because I answered a "prohibited" question at a different Academy?

[SabreFirearms]

Actually it is not illegal. You CAN run a background through NICS even on LTC holders. It is up to the FFL if they chose to or not.

Alot of shops are told by their lawyer to not transfer on a open/delay you never get an answer on and run NICS on LTC holders.

 

[westly]

So from the OP's description of the attempt to buy. He had a DL, LTC, Visa/I94, a hunting license and credit card that didn't have matching names on them. He was from Mexico. He answered one of the qualifying questions wrong and he's wondering why they didn't sell him a gun?

Seems reasonable to me

 

[ZX9RCAM]

Actually it is not illegal. You CAN run a background through NICS even on LTC holders. It is up to the FFL if they chose to or not.

After they already left the store?

 

[popsgarland]

Got my Glock at Academy. Did the paper work, they ran a back ground
check and 30 minuets after I got there, I walked out with the Glock and several boxes of 40 caliber ammo.

This was about 5 years ago and I haven't bought anything else from them except ammo. My other guns have come from members, which I prefer.

 

[popsgarland]

After they already left the store?

^^^^^what he asked^^^^

 

[V-Tach]

@Renegade knows what he's talking about.......

Only an idiot would let a customer leave the store with a firearm and then run a background check.........no FFL is that damn stupid.

 

[13centkiller]

"This is the first time in my life I've ever tried to purchase a firearm. Only firearm-related things I've bought at Academy is ammo and a holster."

A holster for a gun you don't own since this is the firearm you have tried to buy??? What kind of ammo does this phantom gun shoot that you also bought ammo for?

Not a fan of Academy by no means, this sounds like BS

 

[@TX_1]

My one, only and last experience of purchasing a firearm at Academy was several years ago on fairly new release.
My local gun shop said he could order it but no idea on delivery and I needed by Christmas.
Well after much consideration found it in stock at our local store. I swear from the time I walked to the firearms counter and told the man what I wanted and he checked stock, immediately things changed. I was suspect and suspicious to them it seemed. I am LTC holder and that didn’t seem to ease the situation at all or lighten the mood or experience. After all the paperwork and financials I was immediately escorted to the front door and told I had leave with the firearm.
It was the most time consuming and cold firearm purchase I have ever made. And it will not be repeated again.

Yes. They are strange.

I've bought small pistol primers from them when I could find them any where else. First time they said they had them and they were out when I got there. Drove 60 miles to the nearest store. I later made a 2nd trip and actually got 500 primers, that was all they would sell one purchaser.

Later I saw they had them on line and placed an order for 1 carton, the system accepted that, there was no limit indicated. When I got to the store it seemed that every official in the store had to approve it. It took 20 or 30 minutes for them to give the OK to "let me have them". I have on line suppliers that don't make me go through a bunch of hoops.

A few years ago, I did buy a .308 rifle from them. The ATF form was by computer not paper form, fortunately I got an old guy to wait on me and it was no problem to get it filled out.

It is not my kind of store.

 

[Texasgordo]

I do buy ammo there from time to time though. I had a laugh one day when the skinny kid at the register was unable to lift the ammo I plopped down with one hand. He looked like a woke progressive and it gave me a good laugh but apparently he didn't think it was too funny. Them bullets is heavy!

Too much soy milk for the little guy

 

[@TX_1]

After they already left the store?

He mentioned TWIC,

"

TWIC​

"The Transportation Worker Identification Credential, also known as TWIC®, is required by the Maritime Transportation Security Act for workers who need access to secure areas of the nation’s maritime facilities/vessels, and others who require a TWIC®. TSA conducts a security threat assessment (background check) to determine a person’s eligibility and issues the credential."

TSA conducts the background check. Recently I read about TSA have a $$$$ list, that is not really on the no fly list, but is on the harass list. People who are not in sync with the current administration. So it is an expansion of the database for political leaning. Not saying I know for sure, but it is possible.

 

[SabreFirearms]

After they already left the store?

Did'nt see that

 

[Renegade]

Actually it is not illegal. You CAN run a background through NICS even on LTC holders. It is up to the FFL if they chose to or not.

it is illegal to use NICS outside the scope of of the procedures of a 4473. Running NICS after the gun has been transferred is outside that scope.

 

[Renegade]

After they already left the store?

Exactly

 

[docbrazos]

You have a Texas LTC? Asking because usually you don't need a background check with an LTC.

Acadamy can at their option, Do a background cheek too, if they want to, and they often do!

 

[SabreFirearms]

After they already left the store?

I re-read it and didnt see where that happened? After reading it all again sounds like he got delayed, and they did not give him his NTN # OP needs to go back and get the number

 

[SabreFirearms]

it is illegal to use NICS outside the scope of of the procedures of a 4473. Running NICS after the gun has been transferred is outside that scope.

Gun was never transferred though

 

[Renegade]

Gun was never transferred though

lonestardiver said:
I think some LGS run a background check on LTC holders after they leave.

Even if gun is not xferred, you cannot run NICS outside the scope of buying and filling out 4473 as specified in instructions.

 

[SabreFirearms]

lonestardiver said:
I think some LGS run a background check on LTC holders after they leave.

Ahh makes sense now that's no bueno. Texas LTC has a FFL verification page we use to ensure LTC is valid. That's all that needs to be done really.

Texas License to Carry

www.dps.texas.gov

 

[Renegade]

Ahh makes sense now that's no bueno. Texas LTC has a FFL verification page we use to ensure LTC is valid. That's all that needs to be done really.

Texas License to Carry

www.dps.texas.gov

That does not need to be done either.

 

[SabreFirearms]

That does not need to be done either.

Need no, good idea yes. When ATF is yanking licenses, you protect your business.