Breaking news shots fired at trump rally

[Renegade]

LE was aware if the shooter for about 30 minutes before he opened fire

Report are now coming in 3 hrs before

"The 20-year-old gunman was spotted at the rally's security screening area at around 3pm on Saturday, when he attempted to pass through the metal detectors with a rangefinder, according to CNN"

 

[Otto_Mation]

A reporter on Fox just reported that the local police are telling them that their only responsibility was traffic and none of the buildings. Is it possible that a federal agency would lie to us? Nothing to link to on their website yet.

 

[leVieux]

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But, eyewitnesses insist that one of the anti-sniper teams killed a ‘’gentleman’’on the water tower.

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[Johnny Diamond]

A reporter on Fox just reported that the local police are telling them that their only responsibility was traffic and none of the buildings. Is it possible that a federal agency would lie to us? Nothing to link to on their website yet.

Hell no I trust FJB implicitly.

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[kbaxter60]

Is it possible that a federal agency would lie to us?

Did you recently move to this country?

 

[leVieux]

Did you recently move to this country?

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Err, ‘’Otto’’ was obviously being facetious.

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[General Zod]

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But, eyewitnesses insist that one of the anti-sniper teams killed a ‘’gentleman’’on the water tower.

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Care to offer a source for this? First I've heard of it.

 

[Renegade]

A reporter on Fox just reported that the local police are telling them that their only responsibility was traffic and none of the buildings. Is it possible that a federal agency would lie to us? Nothing to link to on their website yet.

Butler Township Police were responsible for traffic.

Other local/state PD such as Sheriff and State troopers were responsible for buildings.

 

[Renegade]

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But, eyewitnesses insist that one of the anti-sniper teams killed a ‘’gentleman’’on the water tower.

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Alex, I would like to bet it all on the category "things that never happened".

 

[zackmars]

Report are now coming in 3 hrs before

"The 20-year-old gunman was spotted at the rally's security screening area at around 3pm on Saturday, when he attempted to pass through the metal detectors with a rangefinder, according to CNN"

 

[Big Dipper]

I‘m pretty sure that I have seen aerial shots of the body, the rifle and a bag.

It would have been easy for him to toss that up on the roof before jumping on ac, then low roof on nearby “hallway”, then “sloped” roof before taking rifle from the bag.

“Bag” center/top.

 

[Texasgordo]

 

[cycleguy2300]

Been reported wind picked up from 0 to 18-30 mph gusts in favorable direction at the very same time Trump turned his head, take your pick either incredibly lucky or blessed of God either case should indicate he's the man for the times.
Johnny

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Given the TOF (.15 -.2sec) the sight picture may have been on target when the trigger was pulled... sometimes the Grace of God is more obvious than others.

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[motorcarman]

An angle that is plausible.

The [DS] screwed up, they didn’t complete their mission. The USSS was not a failure it was an OP conducted by the [DS] players. This was their only chance and they missed. Now the FBI and the [DS] are regrouping to explain what happened, which means they will hide what happened. Did the [DS] just project the next event. Trump will unite the country in the end.

Ep 3403b – It Wasn’t A USSS Failure,It Was An Op By The [DS],Next Event,Nation Will Unite Under Trump

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[cycleguy2300]

So I've heard, but then how did he hide the rifle? under his T shirt and shorts? Did he stage it next to, or on top of the building, that supposedly would have been surveilled well in advance of the rally? Things aren't adding up to me.

Certainly I believe there was a massive security failure, but even then it seems fishy.

Push two captive pins, put upper and lower in a backpack, zip up.

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[DocBeech]

"Earlier in the day, he went through Secret Service security WITH his rangefinder and scoped out the snipers, who spotted him and said they need to keep an eye on him" in the official report.

Also one of the local LE snipers did shoot at him (but missed) and is now on Admin Leave (SOP).

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Wind was 18 mph gusting to 30 mph.

I‘m pretty sure that I have seen aerial shots of the body, the rifle and a bag.

It would have been easy for him to toss that up on the roof before jumping on ac, then low roof on nearby “hallway”, then “sloped” roof before taking rifle from the bag.

 

[DubiousDan]

A reporter on Fox just reported that the local police are telling them that their only responsibility was traffic and none of the buildings. Is it possible that a federal agency would lie to us? Nothing to link to on their website yet.

A former agent was on Fox on Sunday and stated there is an issue where there are multiple agencies involved, Federal, State and Local, with communication. They said they all have equipment that are unable to talk to each other and things have to be relayed between agencies slowing things down.

 

[popper]

A range finder in his pocket detected by metal detector would trigger a walk to his auto and search. Total screw up.
Edit: later 'talk' is a LEO saw him using it. Realize the TSA' types running security might just reject him, LEO shouldn't. Still a screwup.

 

[Johnny Diamond]

Given the TOF (.15 -.2sec) the sight picture may have been on target when the trigger was pulled... sometimes the Grace of God is more obvious than others.

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Explained bullet drop and wind deflection to Mrs Diamond and she said it was nearly dead on for forhead....she knows how to shoot and safe handling that's all I reload, I train, and I watch. And she got it.

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[DocBeech]