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    The Butler rally was the first time USSS counter sniper teams were at a Trump rally. What did they know? Coincidence? Needed to take out a patsy? I don't know but it certainly is one more thing that raises a lot of questions and suspicions.

     

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    Watching more & more of the cell phone videos from the Clown Show, one thought strikes me: Once the locals knew there was a rifleman on the roof; why didn’t one of them just draw & fire a round into the ground to alert everyone & stop the shit-show ?

    Or would the SS just ignore a gunshot, too ?

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    Watching more & more of the cell phone videos from the Clown Show, one thought strikes me: Once the locals knew there was a rifleman on the roof; why didn’t one of them just draw & fire a round into the ground to alert everyone & stop the shit-show ?

    Or would the SS just ignore a gunshot, too ?

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    You're...seriously asking why law enforcement didn't fire a shot in the middle of a crowd?
     

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    Watching more & more of the cell phone videos from the Clown Show, one thought strikes me: Once the locals knew there was a rifleman on the roof; why didn’t one of them just draw & fire a round into the ground to alert everyone & stop the shit-show ?

    Or would the SS just ignore a gunshot, too ?

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    No training or SOP would tell officers to shoot a round into the ground to alert other officers to something. That's what radios are for. But, the real question is why wasn't the operations center relaying messaging from the local LE to the USSS guys. Hopefully it is all recorded and released at some point.
     

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    No training or SOP would tell officers to shoot a round into the ground to alert other officers to something. That's what radios are for. But, the real question is why wasn't the operations center relaying messaging from the local LE to the USSS guys. Hopefully it is all recorded and released at some point.

    Word is the Secret Service deleted the recordings. The stupidest CYA strategy, to cap off a string of failures.
     

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    Word is the Secret Service deleted the recordings. The stupidest CYA strategy, to cap off a string of failures.
    Local comms would also be stored on the local servers for the encrypted radios for the County. Bodycam footage only starts after the roof is blood soaked; where is the pre-buffer recording?

    I've seen dockside fish cleaning stations out in the Texas sun that smell better than this mess.
     

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    Watching more & more of the cell phone videos from the Clown Show, one thought strikes me: Once the locals knew there was a rifleman on the roof; why didn’t one of them just draw & fire a round into the ground to alert everyone & stop the shit-show ?

    Or would the SS just ignore a gunshot, too ?

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    My thought exactly since then
     

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    You're...seriously asking why law enforcement didn't fire a shot in the middle of a crowd?
    Makes sense versus firing into the air. All they had were Mickey Mouse communications and texts. Seconds counted. A perceived threat like this after seeing a guy with gun on roof damn straight fire a gun into the ground. Would have immediately caused rapid response on the stage hopefully. And no harm to crowd who were more in danger once he fired many rounds of his own into the stage. I would have fired many shots into the ground. A no-brainer
     

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    Makes sense versus firing into the air. All they had were Mickey Mouse communications and texts. Seconds counted. A perceived threat like this after seeing a guy with gun on roof damn straight fire a gun into the ground. Would have immediately caused rapid response on the stage hopefully. And no harm to crowd who were more in danger once he fired many rounds of his own into the stage. I would have fired many shots into the ground. A no-brainer

    Would've caused a "rapid response" within the crowd, too. A stampede is not going to improve the security situation, will pull attention away from protecting the protectee (particularly the snipers - who would immediately focus on the shooter in the crowd rather than the shooter on the roof), and is guaranteed to create a mass casualty event. "No harm to the crowd"? People would be trampled to death. And the it could create more opportunities for shots at the real target.

    It's not a "no brainer" in the way you think it is.
     

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