LOL Nice of him to share.I actually know exactly what he's talking about.
fwiw... it is decipherable, yes.
LOL Nice of him to share.I actually know exactly what he's talking about.
LOL Nice of him to share.
Don't know what series you're referring to; his post isn't that confusing... or obtuse. Plenty of IRL parallels.If I didn't have kids, I would be confused. Even though I've watched the series...
The last time I asked this question, I did not get a favorable outcome from some members here. I would feel this is a personal transaction between you and the buyer and have a record of said transaction for future use. I usually do not sell too many guns but the ones I did involved a bill of sale you just mentioned.How many people get a bill of sale when selling a gun? Has anyone ever come asking about a gun you sold?
One gun I sold ten years ago I sold to a LTC holder and that was enough for me. The gun prior I sold to a fellow LEO so another transaction without BOS. I had one guy dressed up all in the ghetto outfit who wanted to buy my gun I sold it to a fellow LEO and I graciously told him it was sold. Hell no as well.Sure it's a been there, done that thing, but we came down kinda quick on @xsefan doncha think? @General Zod, despite battling COVID had the best advice.
But @billtool is right: not in his simile but (no pun intended) in its intent: it's a mutual thing if anybody wants it. Absolutely not needed for private sales. For either party.
I don't sell to or acquire from a lot of private parties, but I've only done a signed bill of sale once in maybe 20 years, and that was because the buyer thought it would be a good idea.
I do vet a buyer to the best of my ability. LTC preferred. Tells me you're regularly subject to background checks. If you show up with no ID, face tattoos, and pants 4 inches below your underwear...no sale.
I do--and I believe importantly so--keep a detailed database of all my meaningful possessions: you know, computers, furniture, metals, jewelry, guns, ammo... When I sell or acquire a firearm the date, the type of transaction, the serial numbers, the components of a build, etc. all get recorded. I can tell you how much I paid in 2007 for a specific case of S&B .45 ACP. But the buyer's name doesn't go in there because I don't legally have to record it. And I don't want to.
DIGITALLY PEOPLE ARE NOT ANYWHEREAS FAR OFF THE GRID THAN THEY THINK NSACOMES TO MINDAND ALL OF THEIRSUPER COMPUTERS!That's all fine and well, but you better get it out&off of your devices. Print a copy, do updates by hand.
Sigh... never mind. Likely everything you'll do or have done is already out there anyway. Cloud, anyone?
Funny as hell some are so worried (either way) about a scrap of paper with info on it when their entire life movements are digitally discoverable.
How many people get a bill of sale when selling a gun? Has anyone ever come asking about a gun you sold?
If you sell a gun to someone and it is used in a crime you might end up in civil court.
So adding a ID requirement is ok but a bill of sale is not
They are both stupid things gun owners do to complicate a simple thing.
Give cash get gun thems da rules of law regarding transferring a firearm in TX.
But it's a free country for now so you are welcome to make it as complex as you want
Showing a DL or LTC is one thing, but letting folks take a photo or copy info: that's s not happening...> "Give cash get gun thems da rules of law regarding transferring a firearm in TX."
Well, no. Not entirely. A refresher might be in order. It's Texas Penal Code §46.06, BTW.
As one example, it is illegal to sell any firearm to someone who is under the age of 18; if the firearm sold was a handgun, that's a state jail felony. And if you give me a name pre-sale and that name isn't the one on your ID, that could arguably run into the first clause of that PC section.
Don't know about you, but it takes me all of about 6 seconds to access my wallet and show LTC or DL. I don't understand how that is some massive overcomplication to the process.
It may be a shock, but I also support the requirement to present a valid form of identification in order to vote. We have around 15 million freshly-minted illegals in the country just since the start of the Biden/Harris administration. IMHO, they should not be able to vote in the elections of this country. Nor should they be able to legally purchase firearms. But all else being equal, I can't make the call between illegal migrant and legal resident without ID. And Texas isn't all-blue just yet: DPS still requires that someone verify lawful presence in order to get a DL or state ID.