The easy way to protect yourself is by not being stupid and having ethics.
I would like to see what he charges were pressed and what they got to stick and how here.This has nothing to do with an illegal using a TX drivers License. As far as I know, there has been nothing said about whether the guy who used the license is legal or illegal. There are some other issues, but the real issue is a "straw man" sale. The main issue is that Copeland sold a gun to person A knowing it was really going to person B. The easy way to protect yourself is by not being stupid and having ethics.
With all due respect to Rum Runner, "ethics" can be a highly subjective matter. There is giant ethical leap between selling to a criminally inclined or violent felon and just some working stiff that happens to be a Mexican national that outstayed his green card. And in terms a straw purchaser I can recall at least a half a dozen times at various gun shows when a buddy of mine walking around with me wound up buying a gun that I was looking at earlier in the show but passed up on it. To an observer that could sure look a lot like a straw purchase situation but is 100% legit.
Well, if it was a straw purchase, then why didnt the other guy get in trouble?
During the operation, ATF agents’ attention was drawn to the Defendant, who was talking to a group of customers in a loud and boisterous manner. He stated that he had served his country, been shot and stabbed and that he could sell firearms to whoever he wanted. When asked if he was afraid that there were undercover officers at the show, the Defendant looked around and stated, “I don’t see any police officers.” An ATF agent was standing directly in front of him when he made the statement
Again, my question is: How do the laws of straw purchases apply to the seller who isn't a FFL? The only way I can see is if they lied on the 4433 at the time of purchase.
Why would there be a 4473 involved if there is no FFL involved? As a private seller it is illegal to sell knowingly to a prohibited person. What they do with their gun after the sale has nothing to do with you (contrary to internet myth).Again, my question is: How do the laws of straw purchases apply to the seller who isn't a FFL? The only way I can see is if they lied on the 4433 at the time of purchase.
Why would there be a 4473 involved if there is no FFL involved? As a private seller it is illegal to sell knowingly to a prohibited person. What they do with their gun after the sale has nothing to do with you (contrary to internet myth).
. NO is a word that more people should learn.
Honestly, put yourself in his position. Had someone who could not produce a Texas ID came up to you wanting to purchase a firearm several times, then handed his buddy the money to buy it for him, would you actually sell it to his buddy? I hope not…
Exactly. He knew the gun was going to a prohibited person.
I've had several younger Hispanic chicks attempt to straw purchase AK's and other semi auto rifles plenty of times before (always ridiculously obvious they are cartel straw purchases), and the answer is always NO.
Why would there be a 4473 involved if there is no FFL involved? As a private seller it is illegal to sell knowingly to a prohibited person. What they do with their gun after the sale has nothing to do with you (contrary to internet myth).
For FFLs, and 4433 forms. For private sales ...???Yep, INTENT is the key behind a straw purchase.