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  • Mexican_Hippie

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    Yep and thats what you'll get if you don't fix the system and soon.
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    There is no way to fix the system. It grows until its unsustainable, has some catastrophic end or 85% tax like Denmark, then starts all over.

    These systems are unsustainable from a DESIGN perspective.

    ETA: The current government programs ARE socialism.
     
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    Hoji

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    I didn't realize we were being so formal :laughing:

    It is how you introduced yourself. I actually typed "theDan" and autocorrect did the rest. I do like the quote and will be using it on various acquaintances and family members who whine about "the wealthy and their fair share"
     

    Mexican_Hippie

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    GFY. I just spent the last two hours mustered in full SCBA on an oil rig in the Arabian Gulf. How fucking dare you spout off with that horse shit. I take 100% of the risk in my job. I spend 6 months a year away from my family to make a better life for us. Tell me, what percentage of my income does some shitbag welfare brood mare "deserve"?

    Just felt this deserved a quote
     

    bdee

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    GFY. I just spent the last two hours mustered in full SCBA on an oil rig in the Arabian Gulf. How fucking dare you spout off with that horse shit. I take 100% of the risk in my job. I spend 6 months a year away from my family to make a better life for us. Tell me, what percentage of my income does some shitbag welfare brood mare "deserve"?
    I don't know how much she personally deserves, but how much of your income does all of society deserve, and then we have a discussion. How much are safe roads worth to you? How much is knowing that what is written on the label is actually in the product? How much is knowing that some shitbag company isn't dumping its waste into your drinking supply? How much is knowing that if the bad guys show up on our shores we will have a decisive response? How about knowing if you need emergency surgery, we'll take care of it, even if you can't afford the million dollars right now?
     

    vmax

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    or... How about knowing if you need emergency surgery, we'll put your name on a list and call you when we get good and ready...?
     

    Hoji

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    I don't know how much she personally deserves, but how much of your income does all of society deserve, and then we have a discussion. How much are safe roads worth to you? How much is knowing that what is written on the label is actually in the product? How much is knowing that some shitbag company isn't dumping its waste into your drinking supply? How much is knowing that if the bad guys show up on our shores we will have a decisive response? How about knowing if you need emergency surgery, we'll take care of it, even if you can't afford the million dollars right now?
    Let me ask you a question. Answer it and we will continue this discussion. How much did you pay in taxes last year?
     

    Hoji

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    BDee, just ball park it if you don't know to the penny.( although when I am robbed at gunpoint every April 15, I know how much is taken, to the penny)

    I really do want to continue this discussion, but only if you participate.
     

    TheDan

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    I do like the quote and will be using it on various acquaintances and family members who whine about "the wealthy and their fair share"
    Awesome! It's interesting to see what happens when you pull the pin on the moral hand grenade and drop it in a room full of people.


    How much are safe roads worth to you? How much is knowing that what is written on the label is actually in the product? How much is knowing that some shitbag company isn't dumping its waste into your drinking supply? How much is knowing that if the bad guys show up on our shores we will have a decisive response? How about knowing if you need emergency surgery, we'll take care of it, even if you can't afford the million dollars right now?
    If people want these things, then why does the money for it have to be taken by force?

    The "roads" part of this standard response is actually an interesting one if you examine it in detail. Supposedly roads are paid for with fuel taxes and the enforcement of "safety" is paid for by fines from the people who break the rules. The gas tax is a use tax... You use the road by driving your vehicle; you pay for it through the fuel taxes. It's much more voluntary and is probably the only moral way to levy a tax. All those cyclists and EV drivers are dirty freeloaders, tho ;)
     
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