Looks like an M9/92FS to this Californian...No Taurus’ View attachment 265630
I assume everything else is Kosher?
Looks like an M9/92FS to this Californian...No Taurus’ View attachment 265630
Forgas Taurus, SA bought the Beretta plant in Brazil, including the machining equipment and the legal rights to continue building some of the Beretta models, including 92's. They also got many of the employees.
leVieux
friends don’t let friends buy taurus
I bought blued Taurus 66 .357 in 1988. Copy of a S&W Model 66. 4” bbl. it’s been a great shooter and no problems with it in 33 years.I've owned several, never a problem. Not a single problem. Own all sorts of nice stuff, often carry a Taurus.
leVieux
I've owned several, never a problem. Not a single problem. Own all sorts of nice stuff, often carry a Taurus.
leVieux
You are one of the lucky ones. My personal experience with the Taurus polymer pistols is far less pleasurable.
Back when the Millennium Pro was released, the grand dad who raised me decided to re-evaluate his carry gun. He was retired corrections/LE, from the era where revolvers were the norm. He carried a 5-shot Smith & Wesson Chief's Special everywhere in his pocket. Then our normally quiet area started seeing a wave of home invasions and multiple-assailant attacks at pharmacies and stores, especially of older folks (pills & cash)
He wasn't sold on the notion of a pistol without a manual safety, like the Glock I was carrying then. He wanted a small gun with higher capacity. I took him to a gun shop and we looked at options. The Taurus PT111 went home with him. The first of a few of the Taurus pistols in a string he'd get - not because they were good, but because they were terrible. That first gun - when we got it home, he had me take it apart and clean & lube it, and show him how it came apart.
What we found was the ejector was busted, right from the factory. OK - back to the gunshop, since you couldn't just order parts from Taurus. The gun shop swapped that gun for the Titanium version, even Steven for his trouble.
That gun turned out to have a poorly made barrel - literally at 21 feet it looked like a shotgun blast - 10 inch groups were the best anyone who shot it could do. It was returned to Taurus, they replaced it.
Got the new gun. Took it shooting - it shot better. Was a bitch to take apart and reassemble, but it worked and was more or less reliable. On the third outing shooting that gun - the damned trigger shoe cracked at the trigger pin on one side. That was enough for the old man, he went to the gun shop and bought a Glock 26 that was malfunction free. He carried it in his front pocket in a DeSantis leather holster.
A couple years later I gave him a CZ-75 Compact as a more fitting nightstand gun that he'd occasionally carry too, which was also completely reliable.
The only time he went to a range, or out in the woods shooting was when I'd take him. I was there with him for every round put through those Taurus' and saw first hand how poorly made they were and how much of a pain in the ass they could be. Certainly none of those were worth betting one's life on.
I had an employee & friend purchase a Taurus G2C a couple years ago, right after they came out. He bought it because it was $189 on sale, and he wanted something smaller than his M&P 9 full size for carry. We went shooting a couple times and I got to shoot that gun and watch others shoot it. My impressions on the G2's were better - the polymer felt better - like a higher quality, different polymer, the slide machining was better (still using cast slides vs forged though) and his gun ran *almost* flawlessly, there were a couple hiccups that could have been ammo or shooter induced failures, as we were trying various loads out to see what it would eat, and how it ran with carry ammo.
It was a far cry better than the Millennium Pro / PT111 pistols, though it is essentially the evolution of them. They might indeed be upping their quality - just like Fiat/Chrysler *might* be building more reliable vehicles than Daimler-Chrysler, or just plain Chrysler before them. I'd recommend a Taurus over a Hi Point, like I'd recommend a Ram truck over riding a pregnant donkey or horse-drawn cart, but I'd also recommend saving a tad more and buying a better product than either if a person is able to do so. Even in the budget-gun price point, there's more reliable options.
I'm glad your PT145 has been good to you. I hope if it fails you, its at a range, or in a non-life-threatening situation.
Oh, Taurus is the best... One of my favorite subjects to talk about
Yes, I know it is :P
This video is even better. Taurus makes good stuff :
But, wait, those Taurus CEO's know their stuff, right?
Umm, not really. They all keep saying the same things, and making the same empty promises:
Even the various CEOs can't change things, no matter what they promised...
People point to the newest 2020 CEO as "turning the company around." But, look at Taurus history:
Back in 2010 - Someone quotes an article about how the new CEO of Taurus (Mark Kressler) will help improve quality... : https://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=408285&highlight=taurus+quality
I then did an internet search of the CEO prior to Kressler. His name was Bob Morrison, and he was CEO in the earlier 2000s. I couldn't find even ONE article where he said he would improve quality... Go figure... He didn't even bother...
In 2012, the Taurus CEO, Mark Kressler, promises "new products, better customer relations and higher quality": https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/taurus-no-more-bull/
But then in 2014, that CEO (Mark Kresser,) was fired... He was a CEO who had "led the charge at Taurus to tighten quality control."
Taurus announces new CEO, allegedly fired its former after company acquisition :: Guns.com
Taurus announced a replacement for its president and CEO, Mark Kresser, who has led the company since 2011, following a partial acquisition of its parent company in Brazil.www.guns.com
And, his replacement CEO plans to repair the Taurus reputation in 2014 (Anthony Acitelli): https://www.shootingsportsretailer.com/stories/interview-taurus-usa-ceo-anthony-acitelli
In 2015, that same CEO (Anthony Acitelli) said: "the agreement is a step to rebuild the brand’s credibility". He was referring to a class action lawsuit about defective guns...
Taurus ready to rebuild credibility, but hurdles still ahead :: Guns.com
After settling a $30 million class action suit over a defective handgun, Taurus's CEO said the agreement is a step to rebuild the brand’s credibility.www.guns.com
Furthermore: Acitelli said: "A company that stands behind its product and is willing to do the right thing for the customer actually gives us credibility."
Taurus ready to rebuild credibility, but hurdles still ahead - Morris, Haynes, Wheeles, Knowles, & Hornsby
After settling a $30 million class action suit over a defective handgun, Taurus International’s chief executive officer said the agreement is a step to rebuild the brand’s credibility.mhhlaw.net
Acitelli eventually left, and in 2017, the new CEO (David Blenker) said: “We have a very dedicated work force that is committed to making Taurus the top brand and I’m excited to be leading the team with this vision.
Taurus USA Promotes David Blenker to CEO
David Blenker has been promoted to Chief Executive Officer (CEO) of Taurus Holdings, Inc. and its subsidiaries (“Taurus USA”).www.ammoland.com
But, in Jan 2020, David Blecker leaves, and he is replaced by Bret Vorhees. Here, Vorhees, the new Taurus CEO, vows to improve quality in April 2020:
Taurus Letter To Customers
To Our Customers, As the new President and CEO of the Taurus companies here in the U.S.A., I want to address an issue our companies are currently facing and reassure you of the efforts going into improving our customer service. It became very apparent to me that we are not meeting our goal to...forum.mcarbo.com
Yea, it's gonna happen.... After all these years, Taurus is "better."
I actually could go on and on, but I'll stop for now
Go to TABC's sign lookup page to verify. You can report the premise posting an incorrect sign or notify a manager...OK, but what about places which sport the "51%" SIGNS but obviously don't have 51% alcohol sales, or anywhere near that ?
I understand that - but, I did not bring up the topic in this thread. Someone else did, with other replies about Taurus…
Start a thread on it.I deleted everything on my own. Didn't mean to cause a problem.
my bad…How did this turn in to the Taurus thread??