Ted Cruz says vote Libertarian?

[Recoil45]

Maybe he can just write his own name in. If he can find 5 others to do the same, he might actually beat the libertarian.

 

[Mike1234567]

As long as Trump's SCOTUS appointments are in line with the list he has suggested he would appoint, he, like Obama, he will still be limited in actions he can take on his own. You know that if Obama could, he'd have total gun confiscation and boarders completely open especially for Muslims. Clinton on the other hand we know for sure will appoint far left leaning justices (or as left leaning as she can get through congress) That is the real danger as it will dictate the direction of the country for the next 20+ years and the damage done would take another 20 years to reverse if it is even possible to reverse.

As I've said before, your vote do with it as you like. But I'm pretty sure that warm fuzzy feeling you're getting thinking you're "not wasting your vote" will fade pretty quickly under a Clinton presidency.

I understand that and agree but the big issue is the "IF" word... IF Trump appoints those he proposes for the SCOTUS then we my be okay with him. My issue with him is he's been proven a liar too many times on issues far to important to ignore. Too, he WAS far left on very important issues but now claims to be moderate or far right.

To Mr. Trump: So which is it, Mr. Pinocchio? Are you real or made of wood? You mentioned something about your large penis. Is that what grows every time you tell a lie? If so then it must be enormous indeed.

 

[sdismukes]

I understand that and agree but the big issue is the "IF" word... IF Trump appoints those he proposes for the SCOTUS then we my be okay with him. My issue with him is he's been proven a liar too many times on issues far to important to ignore. Too, he WAS far left on very important issues but now claims to be moderate or far right.

To Mr. Trump: So which is it, Mr. Pinocchio? Are you real or made of wood? You mentioned something about your large penis. Is that what grows every time you tell a lie? If so then it must be enormous indeed.

If you vote for Hitlery or don't vote at all there is no "IF" about it. She will nominate liberal after liberal berating Congress for not approving any of them. How many years can Congress not approve any SCOTUS nominee before public opinion kills them?

Eventually the court WILL have a far more leftward lean if she is elected. Guns will suffer, free speech will suffer. Abortion will be permitted (you may or may not like that thought).

The court operates off precedent, so once they rule it could be a century or more before they revisit the topic.

Congress controls what a president can sign into law. Executive fiat has its limits and BO I think reached and overstepped them. Not much more she can do in that vein. So if she is elected see 4-8 years of more gridlock and socialistic governing. God knows who she appoints to Justice , FBI, EPA... All those administrators whose word is law...

Vote Trump and we'll have to see. At least he has a business head on his shoulders, not a fascist/liberal one.

Some prefer the devil they know... Trouble is I DO know her and absolutely detest the witch. So I prefer the devil I don't. He at least says things , lies or not, I want to hear. Her lies I don't want to hear.


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[TheDan]

Trump is great simply because he doesn't give a damn about political correctness. He says things other political weenies are afraid to say; factual or not. His rhetoric might be the only thing that's saved free speech as we know it. That should not be considered lightly. Having him as president would be fun simply because it'll piss off all the media pinheads and SJWs.

 

[Mike1234567]

Trumps tells people what they want to hear so he can get what he wants... he's a businessman... no more, no less. His lies are working with regards to garnering support from those who will believe him. Mark my words... he has no intention of following through with anything that doesn't benefit him personally.

 

[Younggun]

Trumps tells people what they want to hear so he can get what he wants... he's a businessman... no more, no less. His lies are working. He has no intention of following through with anything that doesn't benefit him personally.

A thriving economy is very beneficial to him.


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[Younggun]

Terrorism hurts the economy so national security will also be important to him.


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[Younggun]

Tons of employees so stopping the safe place hurt feints BS would be important to him.


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[jrbfishn]

And left leaning politicians are not the friend of buisness. No matter what they say, they stifle it.

from an idgit coffeeholic

 

[rushthezeppelin]

Trump is great simply because he doesn't give a damn about political correctness. He says things other political weenies are afraid to say; factual or not. His rhetoric might be the only thing that's saved free speech as we know it. That should not be considered lightly. Having him as president would be fun simply because it'll piss off all the media pinheads and SJWs.

This too. I think people underestimate the damage PC culture is doing to the fucking fabric of western civilization. IMO we likely won't make it the 20 years till we can take control of the courts again if this crowd isn't stamped out. Sorry but we can't suddenly shift the position of the country, just the direction. Change in society is a hard slow process unless you are willing to shed ALOT of blood to change it. I'd rather try the last chance we have at the non-bloody route even if that means I don't get to enjoy the fruits of my labor. As long as my potential future children have it better I'm okay with that.

 

[ed308]

For those who have forgotten, Perot did fairly well, receiving approximately half as many votes as either of the Rep and Dem candidates. I'm voting LIBERTARIAN.

I don't know if you were around when Perot ran in 1992. Perot was a major player in the election. Johnson hasn't gotten even 10% of the attention Perot got. You're living a dream if you think Johnson will pull in the numbers that Perot got. He'll be lucky to get 10% of the vote.
And importantly, he wan't a Libertarian.

Bill Clinton	Democratic	44,909,889
George Bush	Republican	39,104,545
Ross Perot	Independent	19,742,267
Andre V. Marrou	Libertarian	291,628

 

[easy rider]

For those who have forgotten, Perot did fairly well, receiving approximately half as many votes as either of the Rep and Dem candidates.

It wouldn't have mattered if all three candidates were tied in the 92 election, how many electoral votes did he get? If the popular vote was the only factor Al Gore would have won in 2000.

 

[Eli]

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-...of-names-of-potential-united-states-supreme-c

Decide for yourself, he's released a list of potential nominees already.

He's said all sorts of tripe, and changed his website to suit this week's focus group results. A prime example is neglecting to mention deportation of illegals already in the country - he's long on the record in favor of a path to citizenship - only to 'revise' his stance later after some questioned his position.
He still offers no substantive plan for his proposed border wall, aside from taxing money sent to Latin America - which obviously requires illegals working in America to send it there!
He also is popular for his promise to replace 9extremely unpopular) 0bamacare - the only problem is he wants a British/Canadian-style single-payer system!

Personally, I will not vote for Cruz again. Trump was right in calling him lying Ted. He apparently lied when he signed that pledge to support the party nominee.

I don't like Trump but I see any other vote as a vote for someone who will destroy our country through both legislation and through her appointments to the bench at all levels.

Did I not post this already, or did you miss it?

No, we don't need to 'eat' the elephant. We need to shoot that son-of-a-bitch!!

I'm voting LIBERTARIAN.

You get it!

If he was a total lunatic that does insane things he wouldn't have a billion dollar business. He's not a conservative but he's a very smart guy.

He doesn't have a billion-dollar business, and likely never had. He's a psychopath, and lies impulsively - if he actually had the money, and has income, where's his tax returns?

I don't know if you were around when Perot ran in 1992. Perot was a major player in the election. Johnson hasn't gotten even 10% of the attention Perot got. You're living a dream if you think Johnson will pull in the numbers that Perot got. He'll be lucky to get 10% of the vote.
And importantly, he wan't a Libertarian.

Bill Clinton	Democratic	44,909,889
George Bush	Republican	39,104,545
Ross Perot	Independent	19,742,267
Andre V. Marrou	Libertarian	291,628

This keeps getting brought up constantly, and really shouldn't be. Perot pulled votes equally from the D and R voter base, Bush lost '92 all on his own because he really sucked as President!

Eli

 

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[rushthezeppelin]

Okay I got to admit, that's a good one. Right up there with this lol:

Thanks for the bit of comedy to break the dower mood in this thread, I needed it

 

[ed308]

This keeps getting brought up constantly, and really shouldn't be. Perot pulled votes equally from the D and R voter base, Bush lost '92 all on his own because he really sucked as President!

Eli

And you don't think Trump will get some Dem votes? Happens in every election. I beg to differ why this shouldn't be brought up. Thats the effect of a 3rd Party candidate. Like it or not.

 

[rushthezeppelin]

It wouldn't have mattered if all three candidates were tied in the 92 election, how many electoral votes did he get? If the popular vote was the only factor Al Gore would have won in 2000.

Pretty much this. When you said "No new taxes, read my lips" then jack up taxes and say "read my hips", you aren't going to win an election.

 

[texas skeeter]

don't come crying on this forum when HRC puts Judges in place and takes your 2nd Amendment rights away.

Oh they still would! Lol Just like those that still support this Administration here and claim to be 2a supporters!

 

[texas skeeter]

Gary Johnson for President 2016...... Who? Lol

 

[zincwarrior]

If he was a total lunatic that does insane things he wouldn't have a billion dollar business. He's not a conservative but he's a very smart guy.

He's also said he would make the military follow illegal orders, and only backed off when the military replied to his insanity.

He's also attacked veterans and former prisoners of war. Any other time and Bob Dole would have beaten the crap out of him with one arm.

Plus that whole-fraud and bankrupt thing.