Marines protecting Obama

[Shotgun Jeremy]

This story covers the regs and issues nicely.

http://dailycaller.com/2013/05/16/obama-breaches-marine-umbrella-protocol/

Sent from your moms house.

 

[winchster]

Since I was not in the military, can someone cite the section of Marine rules that prohibits umbrellas?

I have done some basic research and it seems the Army, Air Force and Navy allow it. I could be wrong, and if you decide to correct me please list a source, if you have one.

Thanks.

http://www.marines.mil/Portals/59/Publications/MCO P1020.34G W CH 1-5.pdf

Section 3035

3035. UMBRELLAS. Female Marines may carry an all-black, plain standard or
collapsible umbrella at their option during inclement weather with the
service and dress uniforms. It will be carried in the left hand so that the
hand salute can be properly rendered. Umbrellas may not be used/carried in
formation nor will they be carried with the utility uniform.

 

[RetArmySgt]

US Army Regulation 670-1

Army Regulation 670-1 (Wear and Appearance of Army Uniforms and Equipment), paragraph 27-27, reads: Females may carry and use an umbrella, only during inclement weather, when wearing the service (class A and B), dress, and mess uniforms. Umbrellas are not authorized in formations or when wearing field or utility uniforms.

 

[txinvestigator]

http://www.marines.mil/Portals/59/Publications/MCO P1020.34G W CH 1-5.pdf

Section 3035

3035. UMBRELLAS. Female Marines may carry an all-black, plain standard or
collapsible umbrella at their option during inclement weather with the
service and dress uniforms. It will be carried in the left hand so that the
hand salute can be properly rendered. Umbrellas may not be used/carried in
formation nor will they be carried with the utility uniform.

US Army Regulation 670-1

Army Regulation 670-1 (Wear and Appearance of Army Uniforms and Equipment), paragraph 27-27, reads: Females may carry and use an umbrella, only during inclement weather, when wearing the service (class A and B), dress, and mess uniforms. Umbrellas are not authorized in formations or when wearing field or utility uniforms.

Thank you. And just for my clarification, there are no sections covering males?

 

[RetArmySgt]

That was added in to allow it for females, it replaced the old reg stating no carry of umbrellas.

 

[Shorts]

Thank you. And just for my clarification, there are no sections covering males?

Cite from a current USMC Gunny on this exact topic:

IAW MCO P1020.34, Male Marines are not allowed to hold umbrellas while in uniform.

 

[txinvestigator]

I just want to cover my 6 before I get into with some lefttards.

 

[winchster]

Thank you. And just for my clarification, there are no sections covering males?

Not in the Marine reg.
For what it's worth, if it isn't explicitly allowed, it's usually explicitly prohibited.

 

[Shorts]

I just want to cover my 6 before I get into with some lefttards.

hehe Sure

Oh, the same Marine that gave that cite said despite the regs, and political affiliation, when the CiC tells any service member do something short of moral or ethical violations, you do it. So, service first.

 

[General Zod]

...but the point remains that these are not Mr Obama's personal servants. They are United States Marines. He should've had one of his lackeys like Jay Carney hold the damn umbrella. Or he could just man up and deal with a little rain falling on him.

 

[macshooter]

...but the point remains that these are not Mr Obama's personal servants. They are United States Marines. He should've had one of his lackeys like Jay Carney hold the damn umbrella. Or he could just man up and deal with a little rain falling on him.

Carney would have been perfect, he was born to hold obamas umbrella. Sure does think he's special. Comes from being toted around like a pharaoh on the shoulders of liberal lackeys his whole life. Incompetent arrogant asshole. But he's got the right skin color and that's all that matters. MLK would be proud.[/sarcasm]

 

[Shorts]

...but the point remains that these are not Mr Obama's personal servants. They are United States Marines. He should've had one of his lackeys like Jay Carney hold the damn umbrella. Or he could just man up and deal with a little rain falling on him.

Never said the point didn't remain. If the POTUS asked my USN husband to hold his umbrella he'd say 'Yes sir' and comply, his personal views aside.

We as civilians can hold this view and express it. Service members, especially in uniform and on duty cannot. Some members, often those in leadership roles, both Enlisted and Officer are professional enough to separate politics and duty. And they should. That is done specifically so they can do their jobs and do it well, no matter who is in office. It is for the mission, not the man. My husband serves at the pleasure of the President of the United States. He took his oath seriously as did/do majority of members.

I realize the topic and the point you are making. My husband and I have these conversations all the time. He is further to the Right than I am. I am telling the readership that you must understand there is a line that service members do not cross when they are actively serving, whether you like it or not, it exists. I experience it with DH. Us civilians can spout just about anything anywhere. They cannot, rather, will not. They are in a chain of command and take it very seriously. It must be adhered to and complied with. It is the foundation.

 

[General Zod]

I see it as a good thing that this many civilians who can voice their opinions are voicing them. It's not just here, this is all over Facebook as well. Maybe, just maybe, some of the outrage will reach Glorious Leader - although he will be baffled by it.

 

[Shorts]

I see it as a good thing that this many civilians who can voice their opinions are voicing them. It's not just here, this is all over Facebook as well. Maybe, just maybe, some of the outrage will reach Glorious Leader - although he will be baffled by it.

Surely!

I in no way approve of what he did. I think he has an ego problem. He's always gotta prove he is better than everybody else; he's completely arrogant. (Though I don't know what for. I flat out think he's a failure and he needs to come to terms with it, but knowing his personality, he won't.)

 

[TheDan]

USAF Regulations Section 1
Officers: Do whatever you want
Enlisted: Mirror your CO, but expect 25year NCOs and Canadians to yell at you. Confusion is normal

 

[airbornerangerboogie]

I remember back in the day, I couldn't push a baby carriage on post, Obama is a douche bag. Yes NSA I said douche bag!

 

[pistolpadre]

i don't know why i'm revisiting this, i think the disgust meter has already maxed out.. the day to day picture of him "saluting" is what bothers me, that and the fact he practiced it in front of some white house mirror.. duty corp's man proll'y taught him..

my apologies to any and all corpsmen..