What are the odds Biden gets nominated at the convention

[oldag]

He will be nominated, if he lives long enough.
Then his handlers will instruct him to refuse the nomination and throw his delegates over to support the convention keynote speaker, puppet number 9, because of his patriotic and unifying speech.
Then the superdelegates will take over and there will be no need to count votes.
Also this puts Kamala out on her ear.

Viable possibility.

 

[jmohme]

I think we need to watch who is named as the half baked potato's running mate.
They could just tell the Ho to take a hike and put someone they want in that postion, steal the election again and then let Joey go play on a busy street.

 

[jmohme]

I really worry that this whole thing is just a diversion. Smoke and mirrors to distract us from what is really thier plan.

 

[easy rider]

While I believe Biden was unfit to become president in the first place, the only problem is if the democrats admit he is unfit to run for reelection, then they have to admit he is unfit for president now, and that brings up article 25. The only problem with that? Kamala.

They already basically said he was unfit to stand trial for classified documents, so you can't keep saying he is unfit without uproar.

Either you stick behind him, or cause turmoil within the administration. A power shift from within and without. The democrats are crumbling.

 

[Bigguy]

I watched as much as I could stomach of the rally in NC. Of course Dr. Jill had to lead him on and off stage, but once he was behind the podium and reading from the teleprompter he was able to angrily rant as thought he actually had working brain cells. A very different performance from the debate.

It really reminds me that there is somebody behind the scene pulling the strings. The folks actually in power aren’t going to replace Howdy Doody. He’s just what they want.

 

[WT_Foxtrot]

While I believe Biden was unfit to become president in the first place, the only problem is if the democrats admit he is unfit to run for reelection, then they have to admit he is unfit for president now, and that brings up article 25. The only problem with that? Kamala.

This exactly. By choosing an old feeble senile retread, then the old feeble senile retread choosing an obviously unqualified and quite possibly the most unpopular D politician within even her own party (which he even said was just because she's a black woman), they've painted themselves into a corner.

Good example of how DEI as a theory never works and the choice of a running mate matters and can have consequences.

 

[MountainGirl]

I watched as much as I could stomach of the rally in NC. Of course Dr. Jill had to lead him on and off stage, but once he was behind the podium and reading from the teleprompter he was able to angrily rant as thought he actually had working brain cells. A very different performance from the debate.

It really reminds me that there is somebody behind the scene pulling the strings. The folks actually in power aren’t going to replace Howdy Doody. He’s just what they want.

I disagree for 3 reasons.
1. There's no way they can pull off another steal like they did in '20, and he can't beat Trump legitimately.
2. His debate camp coaches set him up using the Charlottesville-Very Fine People Hoax.
3. See post #13, this thread.

Their Howdy is broken. They're looking for a new Doody.

 

[oldag]

This exactly. By choosing an old feeble senile retread, then the old feeble senile retread choosing an obviously unqualified and quite possibly the most unpopular D politician within even her own party (which he even said was just because she's a black woman), they've painted themselves into a corner.

Good example of how DEI as a theory never works and the choice of a running mate matters and can have consequences.

DEI hire coming back to bite them?

 

[seeker_two]

I think they have to replace Biden on the ballot. If Dem voters aren't going to vote in the POTUS race, they likely won't vote in the other Dem races either; and the Dems won't risk that. They'll find a way to have IMPOTUS bow out gracefully, allowing another Dem puppet to take the seat.....

....and Kameltoe is just as much a puppet as IMPOTUS.

 

[kbaxter60]

They're looking for a new Doody.

Should be doable.
They're full of doody.

 

[easy rider]

DEI hire coming back to bite them?

Well, Biden, before he announced his vice president in 2020, said he was going to select a black woman. DEI at it's core.
Most want to consider what's best for his candidacy, regardless of color or gender.

 

[Rafe]

This exactly. By choosing an old feeble senile retread, then the old feeble senile retread choosing an obviously unqualified and quite possibly the most unpopular D politician within even her own party (which he even said was just because she's a black woman), they've painted themselves into a corner.

Good example of how DEI as a theory never works and the choice of a running mate matters and can have consequences.

And I think this may have unforeseen consequences. After all, JB's handlers aren't omniscient; may, in fact, not have been all that strategic.

Let's consider what the greatest agenda pressure has been on the democrat party in the past few years. I'd say "radical progressivism" might be one way to put it. In other words, leaning way farther left of left. This ain't the democratic party of JFK...heck, even the party that put Bill Clinton in office. This is the party today of "The Squad" and Antifa and pro-Hamas demonstrations. This is the party that's hoping for 7 million new voters for their base via uncontrolled illegal immigration. This is the party that's making a slow turn and burn against our country's greatest ally in the Middle East because of pressure from Gen Zers being educated at universities that are collectively at their most Marxist since...well, since maybe ever. This is the party that takes the Black vote for granted regardless of the economy and rampant crime and what Dr. Martin Luther King actually preached.

So what are their options? Kamala is out; that's a given. As bad as Joe Biden has been, there's been no greater fear in the past 3.5 years than that he would take a header climbing down from Air Force One and the world would wake up to find her in the catbird seat.

You have a rabid, angry, and very influential part of the democratic party that demands DEI and socialist and anti-establishment platforms.

Effectively the only option now would be for Biden to step aside and allow the delegates he won in the primaries to choose someone else when they vote at the Chicago convention in two months. Yep, the delegates don't have to vote for the person who won the primary, but anything else would be clear evidence that the democratic party is falling asunder.

My picks for who--discounting Kamala Wordsalad--could possibly get the nod:

• Gavin Newsom, governor of California
• J. B. Pritzker, governor of Illinois
• Gretchen Whitmer, governor of Michigan
• Sherrod Brown, senator from Ohio

I keep seeing Hillary and Michelle Obama touted online, but I don't think either has a gnat's chance in a RAID fumigation.

Three out of four listed are white, part-of-the-establishment, rich males. How would that fly with the influential radical-left of the party? And Whitmer would be, at best, a last-minute longshot.

My personal opinion is that the democratic party has dug itself a hole right in between a rock and a hard place, and that it will ride the dying horse that is JRB until that lame horse dies, foresworn, in a quiet bedroom in Delaware. Its best available pivot is Newsom, but to do that only four months away from the election broadcasts about as much failure as continuing to back Biden.

 

[Havok1]

His handlers have been covering for him for years. They harvested a couple hundred thousand ballots to get a vegetable “elected” after having all of the more likable(to the dems) candidates drop out to clear the path for him and told everyone that the videos of him were just deep fakes. No reason to think they went through all that just to replace him now. if they wanted anything other than a brain dead puppet there are much better ways to approach that than waiting until now to find a new guy.

 

[oldag]

And I think this may have unforeseen consequences. After all, JB's handlers aren't omniscient; may, in fact, not have been all that strategic.

Let's consider what the greatest agenda pressure has been on the democrat party in the past few years. I'd say "radical progressivism" might be one way to put it. In other words, leaning way farther left of left. This ain't the democratic party of JFK...heck, even the party that put Bill Clinton in office. This is the party today of "The Squad" and Antifa and pro-Hamas demonstrations. This is the party that's hoping for 7 million new voters for their base via uncontrolled illegal immigration. This is the party that's making a slow turn and burn against our country's greatest ally in the Middle East because of pressure from Gen Zers being educated at universities that are collectively at their most Marxist since...well, since maybe ever. This is the party that takes the Black vote for granted regardless of the economy and rampant crime and what Dr. Martin Luther King actually preached.

So what are their options? Kamala is out; that's a given. As bad as Joe Biden has been, there's been no greater fear in the past 3.5 years than that he would take a header climbing down from Air Force One and the world would wake up to find her in the catbird seat.

You have a rabid, angry, and very influential part of the democratic party that demands DEI and socialist and anti-establishment platforms.

Effectively the only option now would be for Biden to step aside and allow the delegates he won in the primaries to choose someone else when they vote at the Chicago convention in two months. Yep, the delegates don't have to vote for the person who won the primary, but anything else would be clear evidence that the democratic party is falling asunder.

My picks for who--discounting Kamala Wordsalad--could possibly get the nod:

• Gavin Newsom, governor of California
• J. B. Pritzker, governor of Illinois
• Gretchen Whitmer, governor of Michigan
• Sherrod Brown, senator from Ohio

I keep seeing Hillary and Michelle Obama touted online, but I don't think either has a gnat's chance in a RAID fumigation.

Three out of four listed are white, part-of-the-establishment, rich males. How would that fly with the influential radical-left of the party? And Whitmer would be, at best, a last-minute longshot.

My personal opinion is that the democratic party has dug itself a hole right in between a rock and a hard place, and that it will ride the dying horse that is JRB until that lame horse dies, foresworn, in a quiet bedroom in Delaware. Its best available pivot is Newsom, but to do that only four months away from the election broadcasts about as much failure as continuing to back Biden.

Hillary would kill to be president.

 

[cycleguy2300]

We both know swing voters are the only votes at play. Dick around with the process too much and those folks won’t be interested in what’s being sold.

For instance, let’s say at the end of the convention, Newsome is the nominee. GA, MI, PA, WI, NV, AZ have to be onboard in November and I don’t see that being realistic. Even less realistic is if it were Harris.

Maybe…just maybe…if the D’s decided to adopt RFK, Jr, then there’s enough time to convince the swingers.

Post convention? Biden’s pretty much gotta die or quit and the same problem exists, except it’s more easily explainable. But the same problem exists with the small number of voters who actually matter.

I think adopting RFK is their best choice, but he may not want to play along.

No other prominent dim has a campaign set up and no other dim has the national appeal or name recognition that RFK Jr has, HOWEVER the dim-o-rat party has treated him rather shabbily lately despite him being a hard-core leftist. Does he even have Secret Service protection?

The other issue is the VP, who sits a heart beat away from being POTUS. She is supposedly highly qualified and capable to fill the role, leaving the left to bypass her for a white man? It doesn't fit the optics and narrative they have worked so hard to create.

By pushing RFK away, and selling Cackles Harris as the VP they have painted themselves into a corner that they no doubt are regretting. The lies and gymnastics needed to get past their self-created position will wreak havok on their ability to wage a election campaign.

No time for the right to celebrate. There will likely be upheaval and churn on the left, but they may find a challenging candidate and we need to be prepared to battle them at the ballot, it is not time for champagne (just yet).

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[cycleguy2300]

If he is replaced, republicans are phucked as Dems will be re-energized and rally around whoever it is.

Definitely a risk

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[seeker_two]

What about Jill Biden? Could be a possibility.....

 

[alternative]

For Trump's sake, Biden is the desired body to run against.

 

[easy rider]

I think adopting RFK is their best choice, but he may not want to play along.

No other prominent dim has a campaign set up and no other dim has the national appeal or name recognition that RFK Jr has, HOWEVER the dim-o-rat party has treated him rather shabbily lately despite him being a hard-core leftist. Does he even have Secret Service protection?

The other issue is the VP, who sits a heart beat away from being POTUS. She is supposedly highly qualified and capable to fill the role, leaving the left to bypass her for a white man? It doesn't fit the optics and narrative they have worked so hard to create.

By pushing RFK away, and selling Cackles Harris as the VP they have painted themselves into a corner that they no doubt are regretting. The lies and gymnastics needed to get past their self-created position will wreak havok on their ability to wage a election campaign.

No time for the right to celebrate. There will likely be upheaval and churn on the left, but they may find a challenging candidate and we need to be prepared to battle them at the ballot, it is not time for champagne (just yet).

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That's giving too much credit to democrats. Inviting RFK back into the fold would be like admitting they were wrong, and that ain't going to happen.

 

[toddnjoyce]

…The other issue is the VP…

I would not be surprised to see a new VP announced at the convention. That could open up some interesting machinations.