Veterans Could Get Free Gun Safes Under Suicide Prevention Proposal Introduced in House

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    Veterans Could Get Free Gun Safes Under Suicide Prevention Proposal Introduced in House

    Any veteran who wants a lockbox to store their firearm would be able to get one for free from the Department of Veterans Affairs under a bipartisan bill introduced in the House on Wednesday aimed at curbing veteran suicides.

    The bill, which has won the endorsement of a firearms industry group in addition to gun control groups, builds off an existing pilot program at the VA that provides lockboxes to at-risk veterans... (full article at title link, a free account is needed to access)

    The article claims research has shown that making it harder to access a gun can prevent suicide deaths, and other studies have also shown that about half of veterans with guns are not storing them safely.

    First, I honestly believe those in the military are used to and comfortable with openly storing weapons in their homes. Unless there are other mitigating factors such as children or unstable adults present, or a threat of theft, there's nothing wrong with having firearms out in the open as long as it's done safely. In fact, it quickens the ability to access a weapon in an emergency.

    Secondly, the VA has been providing free cable locks for guns to any veteran who wants one since 2013, and in 2021, the department began airing public service announcements and posting billboards to encourage safe storage of firearms as part of a broader Biden administration effort to curb veteran and active service member suicides.

    None of that hasn't helped lower the veteran suicide rate.

    What would really help lower these rates would be improving veteran access to mental health care (i.e., ensuring they have timely access to mental health services including expanding telehealth services, increasing the number of mental health professionals, reducing wait times for appointments, etc.), enhancing crisis intervention services by providing immediate support through crisis hotlines and ensuring veterans know how to access these resources can be life-saving, seriously tackling veteran issues such as substance abuse, homelessness and financial instability can address some of the root causes of suicidal ideation; and helping veterans transition from military to civilian life by providing support with employment, housing and social connections to reduce feelings of isolation and hopelessness.

    Unfortunately, anyone intent on doing harm to themselves will find a way to do so. A gun safe won't stop them, or even slow them down.

    Such feel-good measures are a waste of taxpayer's money which could be better spent on the above recommendations!
     

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    It will slow them down if it has an electronic lock, that is tied into the Biden gun safety program, and a person has to ask for permission, and answer a 100 question psych evaluation, then wait for approval, that will take 4 weeks.
     

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    This probably has more to do with making money for safe companies that support requiring safes than anything. Someone having their own gun in their own safe isn’t going to prevent suicide, of course. at the end of the day, very few politicians, especially the dems, give an shit about veterans committing suicide. They won’t put any thought into doing anything to actually address the issue.
     

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    And much like the want help figuring out your taxes or Medicare plans it becomes a flag for mental illness and lose your rights.


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    tekiwap

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    It’s just another way to identify potential threats and to label those as unstable and remove their rights, IMO. Same way with TBI and PTSD .
     

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    It’s just another way to identify potential threats and to label those as unstable and remove their rights, IMO. Same way with TBI and PTSD .

    So you're saying there's no such thing as a traumatic brain injury? Because that'll be news to my friend who picked one up in a horrific car crash a couple of decades ago, and still deals with memory gaps in her day to day life because of it. Her combat veteran husband has managed not to have one somehow, despite serving through three wars.
     

    tekiwap

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    So you're saying there's no such thing as a traumatic brain injury? Because that'll be news to my friend who picked one up in a horrific car crash a couple of decades ago, and still deals with memory gaps in her day to day life because of it. Her combat veteran husband has managed not to have one somehow, despite serving through three wars.
    No, I didn't say that at all; IDK where you'd get that either. TBI is as real as real can get.
    What I said, in simpler terms, is that the "suicide prevention" effort to give gun safes to target veterans who are suicide risks, fall in the same category as TBI and PTSD. Once a veteran has been diagnosed with any or all of those, they now have a stigma attached. And it's a very real stigma, to the point where they can be questioned or determined a possible threat. This is just one effort to mark threats IMO.
     

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    No, I didn't say that at all; IDK where you'd get that either. TBI is as real as real can get.
    What I said, in simpler terms, is that the "suicide prevention" effort to give gun safes to target veterans who are suicide risks, fall in the same category as TBI and PTSD. Once a veteran has been diagnosed with any or all of those, they now have a stigma attached. And it's a very real stigma, to the point where they can be questioned or determined a possible threat. This is just one effort to mark threats IMO.

    Ah, ok. The phrasing made it seem like you doubted the existence of TBI and PTSD. And yeah, the stigma and resulting scrutiny is a reason veteran suicides are so common - no veteran wants to see a shrink because of what the VA's reaction will be and how they'll be treated from then on.
     
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