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    Iowashooter

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    Hope charges are dropped (or not formalized… says he’s being held pending)

     
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    seeker_two

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    That place east of Waco....
    Hope charges are dropped


    If not, I hope the sheriff and prosecutors have a long series of bad days....
     

    wiredgeorge

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    Weird Chi-town gun story involving Trump's stay at Trump Tower?

     

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    Weird Chi-town gun story involving Trump's stay at Trump Tower?

    Would like more details on this one.
     

    Iowashooter

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    Weird Chi-town gun story involving Trump's stay at Trump Tower?

    Wow… “Authorities responded swiftly, with police vehicles and a SWAT team flooding the area in response to a hotel employee’s tip about a gun.

    Either:
    - he left the guns out in his room for the employees to see… (he’s a dumbass)
    - or he mentioned it to an employee (he’s a dumbass)
    - or the employees dug through his things and he didn’t have them secured in a mini gun vault when not on his person (they should be fired and he’s a dumbass).
     

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    Wow… “Authorities responded swiftly, with police vehicles and a SWAT team flooding the area in response to a hotel employee’s tip about a gun.

    Either:
    - he left the guns out in his room for the employees to see… (he’s a dumbass)
    - or he mentioned it to an employee (he’s a dumbass)
    - or the employees dug through his things and he didn’t have them secured in a mini gun vault when not on his person (they should be fired and he’s a dumbass).
    I think it all boils down to HE'S A DUMBASS!!
     

    Lead Belly

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    I think it all boils down to HE'S A DUMBASS!!
    4th Amendment applies to hotel rooms. There are other Amendments than just the 2nd at play here.

    Courts have recognized that the Fourth Amendment protection from unreasonable searches and seizures applies to searches and seizures in hotel and motel rooms. Certain exceptions allow for warrantless searches and seizures, including consent. In broad terms, the consent exception means that a party's agreement, actual or implied to a search and/or seizure renders a warrant unnecessary.

    In general, during a guest's stay at the hotel, only the guest may consent to a search of his or her room. While hotel staff members may access the room for cleaning and maintenance during the guest's stay, they are not authorized to allow police to enter the room. Thus, during a guest's tenancy at the hotel, employees should not allow police to enter the guest's room without a search warrant.

    Fourth Amendment protections do not apply after a guest's tenancy expires, at which point those employees with proper authorization from the hotel may aid the police and consent to a search of the room. While this seems like a straightforward principle, it is not always clear when a tenancy actually expires for the purposes of the Fourth Amendment. When faced with this lack of clarity, hotels can take certain actions to ensure careful compliance with the Fourth Amendment by issuing and consistently following policies regarding (a) guest checkout and (b) eviction of guests.
     

    Iowashooter

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    And there are fools, women and men, who still plan to vote for FKH… unbelievable

    Four Venezuelan illegal immigrants have been arrested and charged with robbing a woman at gunpoint in the driveway of her home in Dallas' Bluffview neighborhood. | Fox News

     

    cycleguy2300

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    4th Amendment applies to hotel rooms. There are other Amendments than just the 2nd at play here.

    Courts have recognized that the Fourth Amendment protection from unreasonable searches and seizures applies to searches and seizures in hotel and motel rooms. Certain exceptions allow for warrantless searches and seizures, including consent. In broad terms, the consent exception means that a party's agreement, actual or implied to a search and/or seizure renders a warrant unnecessary.

    In general, during a guest's stay at the hotel, only the guest may consent to a search of his or her room. While hotel staff members may access the room for cleaning and maintenance during the guest's stay, they are not authorized to allow police to enter the room. Thus, during a guest's tenancy at the hotel, employees should not allow police to enter the guest's room without a search warrant.

    Fourth Amendment protections do not apply after a guest's tenancy expires, at which point those employees with proper authorization from the hotel may aid the police and consent to a search of the room. While this seems like a straightforward principle, it is not always clear when a tenancy actually expires for the purposes of the Fourth Amendment. When faced with this lack of clarity, hotels can take certain actions to ensure careful compliance with the Fourth Amendment by issuing and consistently following policies regarding (a) guest checkout and (b) eviction of guests.

    One of the key differences is hotels can immediately terminate the stay and trespass the now former guests without any sort of eviction process that would be required for the resident of a home.

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