Not again.....

[oldag]

We have VERY STUPID folks working for the ATF when they don't know what a Flack jacket is.

You're just now figuring that out??

Heck, they can't tell a toy gun from a real one.

 

[Mreed911]

13 guns, six at the scene, seven at home.

ATF just announced they've recovered 13 weapons, then 14 weapons and back to 13 weapons. 6 at the school and 7 recovered at home.

Sort of like 20 dead! No 10! No 13! No 9!

 

[Younggun]

13 guns, six at the scene, seven at home. All purchased legally by the shooter or family members. He was wearing a flak jacket with steel plates in it. No details on the types of weapons found at the scene. Allusion to one being a semi-automatic rifle with five unused magazines.

The also said the theatre shooter was wearing body armor, which pictures released by the police showed quite clearly to be nothing more than a MOLLE vest.

I would wait for more evidence to be released.

 

[bdee]

The also said the theatre shooter was wearing body armor, which pictures released by the police showed quite clearly to be nothing more than a MOLLE vest.

I would wait for more evidence to be released.

Fair enough, but the lady from the ATF did say in the jacket there were steel plates, so that's interesting. He had some idea someone would be shooting back. But it also indicates that he planned to make it out alive, or maybe just to survive a bit longer to do more damage.

 

[Mreed911]

Fair enough, but the lady from the ATF did say in the jacket there were steel plates, so that's interesting. He had some idea someone would be shooting back. But it also indicates that he planned to make it out alive, or maybe just to survive a bit longer to do more damage.

Likely the latter.

And the coward attacked defenseless people. They always do... and the other side doesn't learn.

 

[grasshopperglock]

http://www.fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/drills-held-last-week-at-school-in-oregon-shooting/143106


Report of active shooter drills at the school on 10-01-2015.

 

[Mreed911]

http://www.fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/drills-held-last-week-at-school-in-oregon-shooting/143106

Report of active shooter drills at the school on 10-01-2015.

The report is on 10/1, not the drill.

I did my ALERRT Active Shooter course at a public school in Taylor, TX years ago over the summer while it was unoccupied. Not uncommon at all, especially since this is probably one of the largest campus complexes in the region.

The difficulty with a community college is it's almost never closed, with summer classes, etc.

 

[grasshopperglock]

The report is on 10/1, not the drill.

I did my ALERRT Active Shooter course at a public school in Taylor, TX years ago over the summer while it was unoccupied. Not uncommon at all, especially since this is probably one of the largest campus complexes in the region.

The difficulty with a community college is it's almost never closed, with summer classes, etc.

So are the active shooter drills a waste of money? Or do they seem to have bad luck follow them?

 

[Mreed911]

So are the active shooter drills a waste of money? Or do they seem to have bad luck follow them?

The TRAINING is a great spend. VERY helpful.

No clue about the drills, primarily because they're missing the adrenaline rush and learning how to run with your pants full of crap. Shit hits the fan and people won't do what they're expected to do... and infrequent drills don't actually provide training.

I think there are trainings/drills everywhere and the shootings just happen on top of them. Almost every local/regional law enforcement agency is doing some kind of drill like this, usually as part of a grant-funded training package.

 

[grasshopperglock]

The TRAINING is a great spend. VERY helpful.

No clue about the drills, primarily because they're missing the adrenaline rush and learning how to run with your pants full of crap. Shit hits the fan and people won't do what they're expected to do... and infrequent drills don't actually provide training.

I think there are trainings/drills everywhere and the shootings just happen on top of them. Almost every local/regional law enforcement agency is doing some kind of drill like this, usually as part of a grant-funded training package.

Respect, Reed. But unless you have proof of who's doing it. Who's paying for it. Genuine numbers, viewed as a tax payer, not so much being the people trained in it.


It's suspect.

 

[bdee]

I wonder once campus carry goes through in this state, will CCW holders be allowed to participate in these drills?

 

[Mreed911]

I wonder once campus carry goes through in this state, will CCW holders be allowed to participate in these drills?

They're not designed for CCW holders. They're designed for those folks who are tasked with intervening and getting them in the door faster.

Look for similar training from private agencies, along with the requisite warning about going to the fight vs. having it come to you.

 

[shortround]

He was just a sick puppy who never got laid, and took his rage out on a bunch of innocent unarmed victims.

The only way to stop this madness, is to lock up the mentally ill.

You and I know who has a mental problem. We can't look the other way anymore.

We have to get them evaluated and treated, or locked up for life if they can't be helped.

It is what society did for hundreds of years before the ACLU.

 

[stdreb27]

we need a new law to prohibit Flank jackets, can we get a letter of clarification from the ATF on that?
if you just leave the Flank jacket in the box, its legal, but if you wear the Flank jacket and it covers your flanks, then you have committed a felony

also, I;m thinking Manchurian candidate here.

Something like this?

As my friend pointed out. NOT an appropriate way to age a steak.

 

[grumper]

Seeing from some sources he ordered ISIS paraphernalia online, and his black mother is the one that bought all the guns for him.

The US media is going to go hush hush about this shooting shortly I bet. Just like they did with Chris Dorner.

 

[texas skeeter]

In this shooting the story has changed numerous times. Yeah something is still not being reported correctly. Still waiting but I think the same, if the results hurt "Their" cause it will die off quickly...

 

[SC-Texas]

What weapons were used? What weapons were present?

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[A.Texas.Yankee]

Kill this thread. The picture of that keeps popping up on TT for this thread is like a visual cock block.

 

[easy rider]

I remember a woman decided to drive her car on the sidewalk in Las Vegas killing people, can't remember anyone stating we should have any stricter vehicle control laws. As far as Campus Carry goes, check the laws, I believe that doesn't go into effect for community colleges until 2017, and the laws may change by then.

 

[bdee]

I remember a woman decided to drive her car on the sidewalk in Las Vegas killing people, can't remember anyone stating we should have any stricter vehicle control laws. As far as Campus Carry goes, check the laws, I believe that doesn't go into effect for community colleges until 2017, and the laws may change by then.

They are willing to take driver's licenses away from people for mental illness, hell they even take them away for things like epilepsy. In those cases, it doesn't even take a judge, the DMV can just take it away from you. You have to appeal it, but it is administrative.