No More LTC Allowed At Texas State Fair

[ScottDLS]

Paxton filed suit against City of Dallas and the State Fair of Texas for injunctive relief to prevent enforcement of the unlawful ban on firearms at State Fair yesterday. https://members.tsra.com/ct.php?lid=313738403&mm=102845925797

Yawn.

 

[TxBigfoot]

My gps rerouted me through South Dallas today because traffick was backed up. I had to drive down Lamar and Pennsylvania Ave to get to 45. F**k that hood rat POS area. The shit I saw driving through there was wild. There's no way I'd go to the fair without carrying.

 

[TwinSisters]

Texas AG Sues Liberal Dallas for Illegally Banning Guns at Texas State Fair

Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton sued the City of Dallas and the State Fair of Texas for unlawfully prohibiting firearms from government-owned public property in violation of Texas law. Earlier in…

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The good news is that Paxton is suing. The bad news is that he was forced to.

 

[Darqhelmet]

Went to the fair 18/19 haven’t been back, won’t go back. it’s drunk jackasses wall to wall for over priced crap food and warm flat drinks.

 

[Hoji]

Went to the fair 18/19 haven’t been back, won’t go back. it’s drunk jackasses wall to wall for over priced crap food and warm flat drinks.

So, kinda like England?

 

[roadkill]

So, kinda like England?

Now with no guns so I’d say exactly like England now.

 

[Lonesome Dove]

My gps rerouted me through South Dallas today because traffick was backed up. I had to drive down Lamar and Pennsylvania Ave to get to 45. F**k that hood rat POS area. The shit I saw driving through there was wild. There's no way I'd go to the fair without carrying.

I've been over there and yeah!
Couple parts of RW as well.
Try downtown Houston sometime.

 

[roadkill]

Had a call from the AGs office. Apparently they are calling those who filed a complaint looking to add plaintiffs to the case. So if you filed a complaint you might just get a call asking if you want to be listed as a plaintiff along with some questions. Also they said the injunction hearing is this coming Wednesday.


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[DougC]

From the Dallas Morning News Tue Sep 17th

A temporary injunction hearing is set for Thursday on AG Ken Paxton’s lawsuit against Dallas, its interim city manager and the State Fair of Texas.

AND from KERA News

Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton has withdrawn a 2016 legal opinion that said local governments are not liable when private businesses ban guns on government-owned property — an opinion that contradicted his current stance on the State Fair's ban on firearms.

Several years ago the AG's legal opinion said it was OK for Houston, San Antonio and Austin Rodeos to have similar restrictions.

 

[General Zod]

From the Dallas Morning News Tue Sep 17th

A temporary injunction hearing is set for Thursday on AG Ken Paxton’s lawsuit against Dallas, its interim city manager and the State Fair of Texas.

AND from KERA News

Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton has withdrawn a 2016 legal opinion that said local governments are not liable when private businesses ban guns on government-owned property — an opinion that contradicted his current stance on the State Fair's ban on firearms.

Several years ago the AG's legal opinion said it was OK for Houston, San Antonio and Austin Rodeos to have similar restrictions.

Several years ago the AG's legal opinion was in conflict with state law. Good to see he corrected that mistake.

 

[DougC]

Several years ago the AG's legal opinion was in conflict with state law. Good to see he corrected that mistake.

Only makes sense when AG argues that State Fair can't ban LTC but years ago said it was OK for other such government owned but private leased properties. This will be a fix in law that I will write my state reps and Governor to take action in Jan along with a gizzillion other issues.

 

[Eastexasrick]

Only makes sense when AG argues that State Fair can't ban LTC but years ago said it was OK for other such government owned but private leased properties. This will be a fix in law that I will write my state reps and Governor to take action in Jan along with a gizzillion other issues.

Doug, as you are the only member whose narrative has been published, at least that I can verify, if you say a gizzillion I will take that as the whole truth. I figured it was eleventy billion, but I trust your word.

 

[ScottDLS]

Only makes sense when AG argues that State Fair can't ban LTC but years ago said it was OK for other such government owned but private leased properties. This will be a fix in law that I will write my state reps and Governor to take action in Jan along with a gizzillion other issues.

It's going to be interesting to see how much of this might be taken up by the Legislature. I've been following this 28 years since CHL started. The biggest problems I see are government owned stadiums like Cowboy Stadium and American Airlines center. They have MANY events that are not statutorily prohibited...non-scholastic, non- professional sporting events, concerts, other shows, expositions, etc. Honestly, I don't see them doing anything about it. I tried with Cowboy stadium and City of Arlington. But when you have metal detectors and private security who won't let you in, there isn't a darn thing you can do about it.

 

[ScottDLS]

Only makes sense when AG argues that State Fair can't ban LTC but years ago said it was OK for other such government owned but private leased properties. This will be a fix in law that I will write my state reps and Governor to take action in Jan along with a gizzillion other issues.

Another item I'd like to see in the gazillion, but is never going to be, is getting rid of the 46.03 restrictions on long guns that weren't there until the law was 'fixed' to allow permitless handgun carry. While allowing permitless carry of handguns, the law added additional restrictions that weren't there before.

The single best change to the law that occurred since 1997 (there were many good changes that year) was the reduction of 30.05/6/7 violations to a class C misdemeanor from a class A. I suggested this many times on 'another forum' and argued for it, citing examples of how Texas trespass law was abused in this arena much more than in other states.

 

[DougC]

Doug, as you are the only member whose narrative has been published, at least that I can verify, if you say a gizzillion I will take that as the whole truth. I figured it was eleventy billion, but I trust your word.

Thank you for trusting me.. Never fear I am not from the government.

 

[DoubleDuty]

Another item I'd like to see in the gazillion, but is never going to be, is getting rid of the 46.03 restrictions on long guns that weren't there until the law was 'fixed' to allow permitless handgun carry. While allowing permitless carry of handguns, the law added additional restrictions that weren't there before.

The single best change to the law that occurred since 1997 (there were many good changes that year) was the reduction of 30.05/6/7 violations to a class C misdemeanor from a class A. I suggested this many times on 'another forum' and argued for it, citing examples of how Texas trespass law was abused in this arena much more than in other states.

Need to get rid all enforcement of signs. It works in other states. And we know those signs don't work. Asking you to leave should be it.

 

[seeker_two]

Thank you for trusting me.. Never fear I am not from the government.

Isn't that something that someone from the government would say?.....

 

[ScottDLS]

Need to get rid all enforcement of signs. It works in other states. And we know those signs don't work. Asking you to leave should be it.

Yes. We never should have allowed trespass law to be applied to 'conduct' via a sign. But with it lowered to a class C it has moved into the 'don't give a shite' category for me.

 

[roadkill]

They just need to two tier it. No license gets what is current for license holders via signs and prohibited places. License holders get free rein. No more 51% restrictions (as long as carrier isn’t drinking) no more 06/07 and no more school restrictions. If your licensed you can go anywhere armed except places such as jails, court room (not court house) etc.

 

[LabRat]

Judge Allows State Fair Gun Ban to Stand.

State Fair of Texas gun ban allowed to stand

A Dallas judge denied a request by Attorney General Ken Paxton to block the policy.

www.fox4news.com