MINIMUM DEFENSIVE CARRY CALIBER

[leVieux]

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In the World of cartridges & ‘’ballistics’’, many things come & go.

Recall the once dominant .38LC, the .222 deer rifle, the .30 carbine, etc.

.357 Auto & .40 S&W, anyone ?

Or how about the demise then later re-emergence of the trusty 30-30 ?

We shall see . . . . . . . ;

leVieux

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[zackmars]

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Actually, I’ve been told the bullet travels some 150fps faster, penetrates better than a 9mm, and the diameter fits 50% more rounds for similar size magazine.

Plus, less felt recoil.

I have zero experience with either, so I asked those WITH experience to comment.

leVieux

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You only get an extra 2 rounds in a mag of similar size. Has similar or slightly more felt recoil to me.

 

[oldag]

It's also not that large when you look at how poorly marksmanship fairs when put under even the most minor of stresses.

Compared to pistols, rifles practically are magic. Hydrostatic shock means an often smaller/lighter bullet is able to cause comparatively devastating wounds.

Its why when people actually know ahead of time that they will need to shoot something, they take a rifle.

You just made my case (re: marksmanship).

You overestimate the effects of hydrostatic shock.

 

[zackmars]

You just made my case (re: marksmanship).

You overestimate the effects of hydrostatic shock.

I haven't overestimated a thing, ive simply stated that its an effect that pistol calibers do not exhibit, but rifle calibers do, and is why you see such a jump in lethality once you have a round going over 2000 fps.

 

[seeker_two]

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Actually, I’ve been told the bullet travels some 150fps faster, penetrates better than a 9mm, and the diameter fits 50% more rounds for similar size magazine.

Plus, less felt recoil.

I have zero experience with either, so I asked those WITH experience to comment.

leVieux

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All the reviews on the Shield Plus in .30SC I've seen state the recoil is practically the same as a Shield Plus in 9mm. And the gel ballistics aren't any better.

Personally, I'd rather see more micro-9s chambered in .380ACP. The LC380 and P365 .380 are excellent low-recoil options. A Shield Plus. 380 would be a fantastic pocket gun.

 

[leVieux]

Check Taurus USA

 

[seeker_two]

Check Taurus USA

I'd love to see a GX4 in .380ACP....