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  • cycleguy2300

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    I think you are missing the point. I will gladly pay for a service that I can't or won't perform myself. When there is a limited amount of a commodity and a person intentionally buys all available supplies of said commodity in order to prevent me from buying my own and then tries to tell me that his mark up is for the "service" he performed by standing in line to buy out all available supplies of said commodity, I call BS and pronounce him a POS.
    One of the prerequisites of an item to be a commodity is that it in finite supply...

    Capitalism is people being paid for work others can't or won't do.

    Socialism is people getting something they didn't work for but someone else did.

    Glenn did work and did/may get paid for his work. I am pro-capitalism full-stop. I don't suddenly start beleive the socialist lie that profiting from work is wrong or slimy.

    If you believe what Glenn did was slimy, you lost you footing for arguing for capitalism in general, what good is it being a fair weather capitalist?

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    rotor

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    I think you are missing the point. I will gladly pay for a service that I can't or won't perform myself. When there is a limited amount of a commodity and a person intentionally buys all available supplies of said commodity in order to prevent me from buying my own and then tries to tell me that his mark up is for the "service" he performed by standing in line to buy out all available supplies of said commodity, I call BS and pronounce him a POS.
    It's not like this is insider trading. You have the same opportunity to buy those supplies as anyone else does. What ticks me off is the store employees that buy it before anyone else can. Kind of like the people who sneak into the front of the line at an amusement park.
     

    GoPappy

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    So, correct my terrible logic...

    What if you are in the business of road side assistance? Is it suddenly slimy to charge people for your work?

    When I worked at a bicycle shop in college, we had people buy handle bar tape then see we charged $20 to install. They would often ask if "how hard is it to install " me standard answer was "Its pretty easy for me, but a lot of people think its worth $20 to not do it".
    Was that somehow slimy? I could wrap bars in about 10min because I was good at so it came out to $120/h because I had something they didn't, ablity and knowledge.

    I was only making $5.25 was that slimy of my boss? I wanted more money so went to a new place that almost doubled my pay, but that's capitalism.

    Calling people names for using their ability to make money fairly and honestly isn't wrong or slimy and its socialist to name call for that.
    ANYONE can go stand in line if they choose to, just because they would rather pay Glenn to do their work for them doesn't make Glenn or anyone else a bad guy.

    I’m not in the roadside repair business, just like GlennB isn’t in the ammo sales business. The bike shop was in the bike sales and repair business, so not even close to the same circumstances.

    I’ve noticed something about you. You throw around the word socialist a lot.

    When leftists are losing an argument, they scream “racist” as a trump card to win the argument. You seem to do the same thing with “socialist”. Give it a break. It just shows you are losing the argument.
     

    Cooper

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    Let me start with, I'm new here and still trying to git a handle on this social media thing, it's perplexing to say the least. Also, I have no dog in this fight because I am well stocked with the items that I know or think I will need. But after reading this thread I am courious as to where you would stand on a person selling a bottle of water or bag of ice for $20 the day after a hurricane hits the coast? Not looking for a fight, just opinions.
     

    cycleguy2300

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    I’m not in the roadside repair business, just like GlennB isn’t in the ammo sales business. The bike shop was in the bike sales and repair business, so not even close to the same circumstances.

    I’ve noticed something about you. You throw around the word socialist a lot.

    When leftists are losing an argument, they scream “racist” as a trump card to win the argument. You seem to do the same thing with “socialist”. Give it a break. It just shows you are losing the argument.

    Actually this whole discussion is because of Glenn being in the ammo selling business...

    What part of you calling someone names for their embrace of capitalism isn't socialist?

    Now take your fake fair weather capitalism and go. I stand for capitalism regardless of the circumstances.

    Is a person who is "pro 2a, but I don't think people need military guns" really pro-2a?

    Is a capitalist who is only for capitalism when they can get all the things they want really a capitalist?

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    Moonpie

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    Gunz are icky.
    Let me start with, I'm new here and still trying to git a handle on this social media thing, it's perplexing to say the least. Also, I have no dog in this fight because I am well stocked with the items that I know or think I will need. But after reading this thread I am courious as to where you would stand on a person selling a bottle of water or bag of ice for $20 the day after a hurricane hits the coast? Not looking for a fight, just opinions.

    People just like to bitch.
    If the price is too high for you just walk away.
    Do without.
    If you do choose to profiteer don’t bitch if you get your shit pushed in.
    It’s a problem for those without.
     

    TheDan

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    I’m not in the roadside repair business...
    When I was younger I would call a friend for help if I broke down on the side of the road. Nowadays I'd rather call a tow truck and pay their fee than inconvenience my friends. There's just something about compensating people for their efforts.

    Also, what irresponsible driver doesn't have roadside assistance these days? Costs like an extra $2 per month to add to your insurance.
     

    John Galt

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    Let me start with, I'm new here and still trying to git a handle on this social media thing, it's perplexing to say the least. Also, I have no dog in this fight because I am well stocked with the items that I know or think I will need. But after reading this thread I am courious as to where you would stand on a person selling a bottle of water or bag of ice for $20 the day after a hurricane hits the coast? Not looking for a fight, just opinions.
    I have ridden out countless hurricanes and tropical storms in Galveston. Where do I stand on price gouging an essential substance like water? I have probably given away several cases of beer to neighbors and stragglers that didn't have the foresight to buy beer or ice before the causeway got closed. I never once thought to line my pockets by their shortsightedness regarding beer. I could never forgive myself if I took advantage of that circumstance just to line my pockets with gold.
    On a side note, The Great State of Texas also has a position on selling water or ice for $20 after a hurricane: Sec. 17.4625. PRICE GOUGING DURING DECLARED DISASTER.
     

    tonelar

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    this reminds me of my brother and my approach to keeping our cars fueled up. his work parking has an attendant that fuels his car when he leaves his gas door opened. costs him a fee over the actual cost.

    i just stop at whatever gas station i’m nearest when my guage reads @ half.

    guys who stand in line and get ammo for others can charge whatever. kinda convenient not having to go to the sporting goods place.
     

    SA_Steve

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    Hey its Covid. Walmart has 70% iso alc, honest gallon, for $40. The dollar store has a (not gallon) jug of bleach for $3, for years it was $1, and several years ago it was an honest gallon.
     

    Glenn B

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    I think you are missing the point. I will gladly pay for a service that I can't or won't perform myself. When there is a limited amount of a commodity and
    So me buying three boxes of certain brands of ammo at a time (the Academy Sports limit in Texarkana FOR 223, 9MM, 7.62 Russian {as they call it meaning 7.62x39 as far as I can figure} & one other caliber I think 45 if I remember right) is what you evidently seem to be saying is:

    ...a person intentionally buys all available supplies of said commodity in order to prevent me from buying my own and then tries to tell me that his mark up is for the "service" he performed by standing in line to buy out all available supplies of said commodity, I call BS and pronounce him a POS.

    If what you said is somehow what you think I was doing, obviously without any proof that I had done so, then I must point out I believe you to be a self serving ignorant opinionated person. But note that what I just said is conditional on if that is what you thought about what I was doing.

    The only ammo I bought a lot of at Academy was 380 when there was no limit on it and 45 ACP likewise. I bought that 380 for myself and bought 500 rounds. While it was high priced, that is as compared to re-pandemic, pre-looting/rioting, pre-Biden scare prices it was not so bad compared to GunBroker prices or local gun store prices which are out of this world. When I bought them, there had to be at least another several hundred to 1,000 rounds on the shelves and that was several hours after the store opened that day so many others probably bought lots of it before me. I could have easily bought all of it and did what you just said but did not. In fact, there was another guy there just staring at it, seemingly with his thumb up his arse uncertain as whether or not to take the plunge into his pocket for cash or card, so I took what I could se for my two 380 pistols and left the rest there. A normal range day with two pistols would easily be 200 rounds at a minimum and more likely 250, so I got two range day's worth or if I stretched it out maybe 2.5 days worth. Pretty much the same with the Blazer 45 ACP except there was a lot more of it than there was of the 380 when I got it and other folks were there buying what they wanted just as was I. I have not sold any of that and probably will not as both me and my son needed some. At another time, in Academy Sports, I was limited to three boxes of 45 and sold none of them either. The 45 was also selling much higher than pre-frenzy prices.

    On another note, I have to admit, that while at Academy Sports last week, I bought a set of dumbbell handles with the star locking system and four (4) ten pound weight plates. They actually seem to be in shorter supply than ammo, I have been looking there for over a month and never in that time saw weights or dumbbell handles until last week. Shame on me, I took the last set of handles and the last four (4) 10 lb weights! I got them so I could help myself become more fit and thus prevented someone else from doing likewise for himself. By your standards, I guess that would make me a POS but at least if I keep at the weights I will be a more physically fit POS!:popcorn:
     

    Renegade

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    I think you are missing the point. I will gladly pay for a service that I can't or won't perform myself. When there is a limited amount of a commodity and a person intentionally buys all available supplies of said commodity in order to prevent me from buying my own and then tries to tell me that his mark up is for the "service" he performed by standing in line to buy out all available supplies of said commodity, I call BS and pronounce him a POS.

    The irony of your screenname
     
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