How far would you go to stop Ebola? This will be interesting!

[Sapper740]

I'll go first and let's not get bogged down in discussions of "How would you accomplish this" or "You can't do that!". I've got a pen and a phone and under Title 42 I'm gonna! I'm concerned that if we don't get ahead of this virus we're going to have thousands of deaths, a collapse of our economy, and Martial law declared.


No more passengers from West Africa allowed in the U.S.

No more passengers with a fever allowed in the U.S.

Secure the borders.

I'd impose an immediate in-house quarantine on all the people within the "concentric circles" of the victims and those who have come in contact with the victims. Yes, this means at this point probably a couple of thousand people.

Libertarians, have at me!

 

[Younggun]

I'm not sure if there are any Libertarians on this forum.

 

[Mexican_Hippie]

Did you mean Liberians?

 

[Sapper740]

Did you mean Liberians?

Sorry, Librarians.

 

[Sapper740]

I'm not sure if there are any Libertarians on this forum.

If anybody, I was sure you'd rise to the bait.

Am I that obvious?

 

[Mexican_Hippie]

Sorry, Librarians.

In that case Id crack a book to study containment and close the book on infections in the US.

 

[Younggun]

If anybody, I was sure you'd rise to the bait.

Am I that obvious?

Well, yes.

But I'm not a Libertarian. I haven't reconciled with their stance on abortion so I don't claim any party affiliation.

 

[London]

Well, yes.

But I'm not a Libertarian. I haven't reconciled with their stance on abortion so I don't claim any party affiliation.

Libertarians have a unified stance on abortion? That's news to me. Last I checked that and the death penalty were the two biggest arguments they had in house.

 

[Younggun]

Libertarians have a unified stance on abortion? That's news to me. Last I checked that and the death penalty were the two biggest arguments they had in house.

https://lptexas.org/state-platform

 

[Sapper740]

https://lptexas.org/state-platform

Interesting. I didn't see anything regarding the LP of Texas' stance on abortion. Maybe I missed it. I did, however see these three deal killers:

II.1.b. Religion.
Libertarians support the principle of separation of church and state, and that there is no freedom of religion without freedom from religion. Libertarians oppose government funding or endorsement of any religious or nonreligious position over any other. Libertarians call for strict supervision of how government payments or tax subsidies to all religious organizations are used, to insure they are not used to support indoctrination.

Liberals believe in the "separation of Church and State" too, a nonsensical idea for a country such as the United States of America which was founded and flourished with Judeo-Christian ideals. One simply needs to look how far we have fallen since we abandoned those concepts to know this is a false idea.

II.1.f. Family Values.
Libertarians seek to abolish legislation and policies that define what a family is.

A non-starter for any Christian.....and probably a lot of other religions too. Another Liberal idea that is harmful to our country.

III.1.b. Border Control.
The Libertarian Party believes in and encourages free and fair trade among nations which allows the easy exchange of currency, goods, labor, and services.

Another bad idea, usually proposed by Liberals like Obama.

 

[Younggun]

It seems like they have removed the stance on abortion.

It used to be along the lines of: "we believe it is a deeply personal decision that can only be made by those involved....don't support legislation restricting....yada yada something something.

Basically not willing to say its ok, but not willing to say it was a violation of the child's rights either. I disagree with the formal party in that area.


I won't get in to the pointless debate on the topics you mentioned. We both have opinions on the subject and that's OK. Wouldn't change either of our minds by debating them here.

 

[Mexican_Hippie]

Yep, that's why I'm more of a Liberpublican.

There's a few concepts within the Libertarian platform that are, ironically, anti-liberty.

Freedom of religion is one of them. To have context you have to look at the UK and why the 1st amendment came about.

They have a formal state religion, headed by the monarchy. They have Bishops as part of the House of Lords (Senate equivalent). There had also been executions and internal strife over denominations with UK.

Squashing an individual's ability to speak about religion because they are a political leader or work for government is a violation of their rights.

Freedom FROM religion is, by definition, anti-liberty.

 

[Sapper740]

Yep, that's why I'm more of a Liberpublican.

There's a few concepts within the Libertarian platform that are, ironically, anti-liberty.

Freedom of religion is one of them. To have context you have to look at the UK and why the 1st amendment came about.

They have a formal state religion, headed by the monarchy. They have Bishops as part of the House of Lords (Senate equivalent). There had also been executions and internal strife over denominations with UK.

Squashing an individual's ability to speak about religion because they are a political leader or work for government is a violation of their rights.

Freedom FROM religion is, by definition, anti-liberty.

My thoughts too. I consider myself myself a TEAbertarian.....a Conservative who embraces some of the Libertarian Party's stances.....some.

 

[Younggun]

I think stances on church/state can become confused do to preconceived notions based on widespread generalities.

My opinion, most people on either side of the issue take it too far, and I am in the minority who actually get it right.

Now that I'm a minority, I gots to head out and collect my benefits.

 

[breakingcontact]

About 10 years ago...allowing free movement of people across borders was in the libertarian talking points...not so much anymore.

There's been some new weird hybrid kinda sorta libertarianism evolve.

But what do I know?

What to do to stop ebola? Lets start with the low hanging fruit. Stop flights from (or connecting to) the countries where the outbreak is going on.

 

[breakingcontact]

From /principles on the website..."you have the inalienable right to live....without hindrance from any person or entity".

That is a pro-life statement.

Sometimes I think libertarians are good for the GOP and sometimes I think they are just benefiting the socialists.

Again from this website: "/state-platform"...they sound much more concerned about protecting the government from the church than the church from the government.

Also very anti-family and anti-marriage.

Libertarians!? What am I going to do with you all!?

 

[Vaquero]

What are we discussing?

 

[breakingcontact]

What are we discussing?

Until post #2..? Ebola

 

[Vaquero]

Until post #2..? Ebola

Heh!
thanks.

 

[Younggun]

Sapper trolled.