Coronavirus Epidemic, Part 2
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Still using half- truths to make it scarier? Are you really that scared or just can't stand the idea that your fear may be unfounded?
Don't you have floors to mop at the hospital?
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Don't you have floors to mop at the hospital?
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I really don't care what anyone else does or thinks about Covid. If you feel that the mortality rate is less than the common cold no sweat off my brow and if you die of the disease I won't miss you. Like I said, you may know guns but are sure stupid when it comes to math and disease. So go your merry way thinking this is a conspiracy theory, people are not going to die from Covid and that flu is more lethal. Darwin has a way of natural selection.
Your basing your 2% on known cases. Now certainly today testing is much more available, then say 3 months ago, but is there a credible estimate on those who contracted COVID-19 that survived that were never tested? With reports that many cases of COVID-19 not being any more severe than sniffles or a cold, how can any percentage truly be accurate? There is a good reasoning for inflating the numbers, but you have to ask yourself why any research that counters those numbers is stifled.
I think he means stuff like weld slag.
Weld slag or dross? Dross, of course, is due to the amount of kerf.
First and foremost to be clear I believe the virus is serious and many people have fallen victim to it and have died.
However, I have very little faith in the actual numbers being reported, analyzed, and being used to make critical decisions impacting our entire country and the world.
Until anyone has precisely defined and consitently accurate reported numbers to analyze, the actual magnitude of the virus and deaths is an enigma. And is the data collection and reporting consistant with the data from any previous pandemic to make valid comparisons?
The “experts” and politicians have succeeded in incentivizing the diagnosis, treatment, and reporting, (including cause of death) of the virus. Follow the money.
They have also succeded in obfuscating the data and (in conjunction with mainstream media) instilling fear into medical professionals and the general population, and they are using this fear to further their agenda.
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However, I have very little faith in the actual numbers being reported, analyzed, and being used to make critical decisions impacting our entire country and the world.
Until anyone has precisely defined and consitently accurate reported numbers to analyze, the actual magnitude of the virus and deaths is an enigma. And is the data collection and reporting consistant with the data from any previous pandemic to make valid comparisons?
The “experts” and politicians have succeeded in incentivizing the diagnosis, treatment, and reporting, (including cause of death) of the virus. Follow the money.
They have also succeded in obfuscating the data and (in conjunction with mainstream media) instilling fear into medical professionals and the general population, and they are using this fear to further their agenda.
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You are a fear monger. And a dishonest one at that. I never said covid wasn't deadly or that colds were. Pneumonia and flu ARE indiscriminate killers of all ages, especially the young. Unlike covid, even those not at risk from other factors. That is a fact. If you were a actual medical professional you would know that.
And I may not be a math genius, but I do have more than a fair education and I can tell you this. Your numbers don't add up. There is no way you can have the number of deaths you claim per day for months and only have a total of 83 covid deaths in a 3 county area. It just ain't going to happen.
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I'll go back and mention again that simple questions about this virus are either deflected, unanswered in their entirety, or substituted with some statistic or tidbit of information that doesn't provide an answer. That's enough to raise serious concerns.
To me, that proves the people who are on board with this virus being "super dangerous" don't really know for sure, but are comfortable parroting the lines they're being given because they believe the message.
I'm not claiming to have the answers, which is why I am asking questions. So far, nobody has given me anything that can be verified as accurate. I still want to know if total overall mortality rates have changed in any meaningful way since COVID walked on stage, and whether there's statistical correlations. What is most frightening to me is the negativity towards anyone who questions the narrative! The reality is I still don't have any answers beyond the same lines being trotted out as proofs, yet there's nothing anyone has been able to do to back them up. "Well just look at the numbers" they say, but what do you do when those numbers can't be verified? What do you do when those numbers keep changing? What do you do when those numbers simply don't correlate with what you can see with your own two eyes? If you're like a lot of us, you ask questions and seek to understand, not just simply believe. There's unfortunately a LOT of people who will blindly swallow whatever information they are given, I'm just not one of them.
To me, that proves the people who are on board with this virus being "super dangerous" don't really know for sure, but are comfortable parroting the lines they're being given because they believe the message.
I'm not claiming to have the answers, which is why I am asking questions. So far, nobody has given me anything that can be verified as accurate. I still want to know if total overall mortality rates have changed in any meaningful way since COVID walked on stage, and whether there's statistical correlations. What is most frightening to me is the negativity towards anyone who questions the narrative! The reality is I still don't have any answers beyond the same lines being trotted out as proofs, yet there's nothing anyone has been able to do to back them up. "Well just look at the numbers" they say, but what do you do when those numbers can't be verified? What do you do when those numbers keep changing? What do you do when those numbers simply don't correlate with what you can see with your own two eyes? If you're like a lot of us, you ask questions and seek to understand, not just simply believe. There's unfortunately a LOT of people who will blindly swallow whatever information they are given, I'm just not one of them.
That’s two questions. First answer: COVID hasn’t been around long enough to understand it’s direct impact on overall mortality rate. The most recent CDC data for overall mort rate is current as of 2018 and rests at 868 deaths per 100,000.
Until we know the answer to the first question, we won’t have an answer to correlation. Just keep in mind that correlation in and of itself doesn’t equate to causation.
The main thing is, unless you're in a bubble, the MSM and Tech media will only publish what fits their narrative. For me anyway, I didn't/don't trust their narrative on other issues, so I surely don't trust their narrative on this issue, and they certainly are pushing the narrative very hard.
@Brains, I stand slightly corrected. CDC rapid release provisional data is available for 20Q1. The crude tally for the 12-month lookback at the end of 20Q1 is up slightly to 878 per 100,000 or about 1% higher for all causes of death.
CDC lumps COVID in with Flu and Respiratory illness, and the 12-month lookback at end of 20Q1 stands at 16 per 100,000 vs 15.2 per 100,000 for 19Q1. So less than 1 additional death per 100,000 YoY for that category. 18Q1 sat at 19.1, higher than both 19Q1 and 20Q1.
What that tells me is that as of 20Q1, Americans were dying just a but more compared to the same period in 2019, but it wasn’t due to flu or respiratory illness.
CDC lumps COVID in with Flu and Respiratory illness, and the 12-month lookback at end of 20Q1 stands at 16 per 100,000 vs 15.2 per 100,000 for 19Q1. So less than 1 additional death per 100,000 YoY for that category. 18Q1 sat at 19.1, higher than both 19Q1 and 20Q1.
What that tells me is that as of 20Q1, Americans were dying just a but more compared to the same period in 2019, but it wasn’t due to flu or respiratory illness.
Good questions. Realizing that the mortality rate is 100% for all of us so eventually we all meet that criteria. I guess you are asking if Covid makes that happen earlier, correct? I think it does. For the 80 year old vegetable in a nursing home they may live that way for another year, two who knows, but if they become Covid positive they have a relatively high chance of death sooner rather than later. They would be counted as a Covid death if they became positive and died. Some may consider it a blessing as I sure don't want to vegetate like that, my MIL died last year that way of "natural causes". So obviously the Covid mortality rate is higher in people with other serious problems.
If you are under 40 the statistics are pretty good. Over 40 is where the problems are and apparently increase with age. Realize though that it is not possible to determine if Covid changes overall mortality as that is 100% already, all we can say is that about 2% of people with Covid die with what appears to be a Covid death. If you are like me, a well over 60 year old relatively healthy person, I am not ready to die earlier than was meant to be and will do everything I can to prevent Covid. That is not fear monging or alarmist, just reality. I wear a seatbelt when I drive too. I treat my firearms with the utmost respect, I try to always carry, I don't text and drive, I have not had a speeding ticket in over 60 years (yes I am old), I don't drink.
So, total overall mortality is 100%, has there been a deviation where the expected mortality rate is higher in a given population this year vs. last year, I don't know. The reality now though is that ICU occupancy is getting tight, treatment has gotten better though with drugs, plasma, ventilators, experience. Eventually a vaccine I hope that is safe. Epidemics are not new, I remember as a kid the polio epidemics and was so thankful that Dr. Salk was there for us. Things will get better so just be careful until they do.
People should weigh their own risks in life, not dictated to by those who feel they have power over all.
I often ask myself, in what reality can a person openly assault police and get away with it, while in the same city a mother, while socially distancing, can be tazed and arrested in front of her child for not wearing a mask?
