It would be more helpful if it were accurate. Did you find the error?
I thought hospitals were no longer required to post?
It would be more helpful if it were accurate. Did you find the error?
Correct.I thought hospitals were no longer required to post?
Well that would be one error in that chart that could land you in jail.Correct.
Hospitals no longer need to post signs to keep you out.
A, that's not a statute of any kind, let alone relevant.This may be of help to you - https://txhga.org/texas-ltc-information/where-can-you-carry/
It's from the TxHGA
I believe they do, though it has been changed from an exception to a defense.Hospitals no longer need to post signs to keep you out.
Sec. 46.03. PLACES WEAPONS PROHIBITED.
(a) A person commits an offense if the person intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly possesses or goes with a firearm, location-restricted knife, club, or prohibited weapon listed in Section 46.05(a):
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(11) on the premises of a hospital licensed under Chapter 241, Health and Safety Code, or on the premises of a nursing facility licensed under Chapter 242, Health and Safety Code, unless the person has written authorization of the hospital or nursing facility administration, as appropriate;
Sec. 46.15. NONAPPLICABILITY.
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(p) Sections 46.03(a)(7), (11), and (13) do not apply if the actor:
(1) carries a handgun on the premises or other property, as applicable;
(2) holds a license to carry a handgun issued under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code; and
(3) was not given effective notice under Section 30.06 or 30.07 of this code or Section 411.204, Government Code, as applicable.
Well Ho-Lee-Phuk. This is what I mean by unreadable. Had no idea rthey moved that down to 46.15I believe they do, though it has been changed from an exception to a defense.
https://statutes.capitol.texas.gov/docs/PE/htm/PE.46.htm
A, that's not a statute of any kind, let alone relevant.
B, it's full of errors
C, it does not address the situation you described.
Yep it's that bad. How many people missed that, and it's been over a year? But people have been missing 46.15 for years.Well Ho-Lee-Phuk. This is what I mean by unreadable. Had no idea rthey moved that down to 46.15
So since 51% is 46.03(a)(7), you can carry in bar if they do not post 30.06/07? Am I reading that right?
Then why post it as a reply to a post asking for those?A. Never said it was.
B. Never said it wasn't.
C. It wasn't meant to.
Yep it's that bad. How many people missed that, and it's been over a year? But people have been missing 46.15 for years.
I wonder if it's too late to work with some people to get some of this fixed in this coming session.They also failed to get rid of the double penalty. Gert caught in amusement park, hospital that is properly posted and you get a 30.06 + 46.03 charge.
IMPORTANT: 'Applicability' has NOTHING to to with 'A Defense To Prosecution' - Applicability literally means the law is not applicable, i.e. no law was broken, and makes a HUGE difference.I believe they do, though it has been changed from an exception to a defense.
https://statutes.capitol.texas.gov/docs/PE/htm/PE.46.htm
Got it. I see the “or” I originally missed. So if they have a 51%, 06 or 07 you have been given notice. If there is an 06/07 you can get a double penalty of 06/07 and 46.03….Yep it's that bad. How many people missed that, and it's been over a year? But people have been missing 46.15 for years.
I don't think so. It's "Section 30.06 or 30.07 of this code or Section 411.204, Government Code, as applicable" so bars have to have the 51% signs posted correctly, hospitals have to have the 51% signs minus the "51%" posted correctly, and amusement parks have to have 30.06/30.07 posted correctly. Very few hospitals have the right signs posted though.
Yes, but I bet that will never effectively apply unless you go out of your way to be a jackass and refuse to leave. TCP 46.03(m) (the first one, as opposed to the other 46.03(m)) offers another defense to all of 46.03:Got it. I see the “or” I originally missed. So if they have a 51%, 06 or 07 you have been given notice. If there is an 06/07 you can get a double penalty of 06/07 and 46.03….
Given 30.06(d) and 30.07(d) ("An offense under this section is a Class C misdemeanor punishable by a fine not to exceed $200, except that the offense is a Class A misdemeanor if it is shown on the trial of the offense that, after entering the property, the license holder was personally given the notice by oral communication described by Subsection (b) and subsequently failed to depart.") it seems unlikely that anyone would bother arresting or prosecuting as long as you don't try to stay and make a point after you were asked to leave.(m) It is a defense to prosecution under Section 46.03 that the actor:
(1) carries a handgun on a premises or other property on which the carrying of a weapon is prohibited under that section;
(2) personally received from the owner of the property, or from another person with apparent authority to act for the owner, notice that carrying a firearm or other weapon on the premises or other property, as applicable, was prohibited; and
(3) promptly departed from the premises or other property.