Breaking news shots fired at trump rally
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cycleguy2300
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We may not be able to know what hold the shooter had, but its a starting point to get a rough idea about what the shot took and see just how lucky we got
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No, but if you want to dive into some of our stuff check out "One Shot" program with DARPA. We do have modern units in the field. I am thinking of some other tech I know that is out there though. MARS are not laser wind reading capable.
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I find it convenient/easy/comforting to presume the shooter and/or his gear were incompetent/substandard, and for those reasons I tend to lean the other way. I find it more instructive/frightening to PRESUME the opposite. With that presumption in place, conditions and a chance movement of the target caused the miss.
It is also easy to evaluate the result as a success for the security/protection that was in place (despite the fact that the former President WAS hit). Revising that evaluation based on the possibility that he wasn't killed because of a wind gust that couldn't have been seen/compensated for by a competent shooter at that range with no flags/indicators/visible mirage, suggests that we should be viewing the outcome as an outright failure. One man's opinion, but my opinion is colored by experience being caught in completion by a wind change using gear that is FAR more capable than what Crooks was using...
I mean you could consider the mirage coming off the building screwed him (ever had to use a mirage cover? stuff gets nasty. That's why every SS rifle you see has a silencer cover). It could have been the wind. It could have been his movement at the exact moment (which was a saving grace). The number of things that could have saved him are large. It could have been a 4 moa rifle, or cheap 4 moa ammo.
What we do know, is that their was enough guardian angel/luck in the air that this was nothing short of a miracle. 125 yards is a chip shot.
I will be stunned if shooter had anything quality. Most likely Chinese made scope with ammo on sale from Academy. I doubt shooter even knew what MOA is or how to calculate it.
His main advantage was 125 yards away.
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I shoot off my backyard porch out to 200 and it is mind boggling how close he was to the podium.
His main advantage was 125 yards away.
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I shoot off my backyard porch out to 200 and it is mind boggling how close he was to the podium.
My point isn’t that you can’t get good data. It’s that we don’t have good data. Even testing ammo in one rifle doesn’t apply to another and I’m sure you know this.
And the point of that is there’s no use in pulling out ballistics charts with wind drift measurements down to 1/10” when the unknown variables will amount to 1”. So might as well just say 2-3” and be done with it.
I am not sure what you mean by covered up? Those are dope cards, dry erase boards. Or do you mean his scope mounted LRF? The one in front is a MARS https://envision-tek.com/products. The guy behind it looks like he rocking a Wilcox-MRF https://wilcoxind.com/products/combat-systems/fire-control-systems/mrf-xe both of which are rocking our ballistic software and are babies I support.
