2021 Bronco
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Oh geez... we went from a maze of vacuum hoses in the 80’s, then we cleaned up under the hood in the 90’s with fuel injection and OBD I/II, now we are back to the rat’s nest under the hood again. There’s just so much there, I can’t tell what I’m looking at.
Ball bearings and Fetzer valves, all you need to know.
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Finally got to drive one at their Off-Road Experience a couple days ago. I really appreciated the Bronco team being very enthusiastic about the manual! That crawler gear is hilariously low; just idle over everything. The camera system is something I'm only used to seeing on things like fully loaded Land Rovers, so it's nice to see it in a "budget" off-roader..
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Chip shortage continues... From what I understand the shortages are related to the infotainment systems, not critical functions? The off-road cameras are cool, but maybe putting all these gadgets into cars is counter productive.
carbuzz.com
Ford Cuts Production Of Bronco, F-150 And Other Major Models
The semiconductor chip shortage is rearing its ugly head again.
carbuzz.com
Chip shortage continues... From what I understand the shortages are related to the infotainment systems, not critical functions? The off-road cameras are cool, but maybe putting all these gadgets into cars is counter productive.
Ford Cuts Production Of Bronco, F-150 And Other Major Models
The semiconductor chip shortage is rearing its ugly head again.
Silicon shortages can hit nearly every supplier.
It might be infotainment for a few weeks, could be something else next week. But there’s so much silicon in modern cars, it could be anything.
Totally agree, there’s too much crap in cars these days.
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Vehicles are getting so complicated . I suggest that car makers adopt aviation style electronics where you have a "critical" system data bus and a separate bus for cameras, entertainment and the host of creature features that drive the cost and maintenance up. This would allow for easy and less costly upgrades..the expense of added wiring would be minimal and allow buyers to select those items which are important to them.Chip shortage continues... From what I understand the shortages are related to the infotainment systems, not critical functions? The off-road cameras are cool, but maybe putting all these gadgets into cars is counter productive.
Ford Cuts Production Of Bronco, F-150 And Other Major Models
The semiconductor chip shortage is rearing its ugly head again.
They are segmented.
Different manufacturers split them out a little differently, but the basic concept is this:
There's "CAN-C", the chassis bus. It connects the modules necessary to run the car and some ancillary stuff. Engine, transmission, etc.
There's "CAN-IHS", the internal high-speed bus. It connects the infotainment, comfort, and convenience modules.
There's simple, low-speed one-wire LIN-BUS connections too, for things like steering wheel buttons, seat motors, etc. The LIN will connect back to the rest of the car through a module sitting on one of the CAN busses.
Then there's a "CAN-D" network, the diagnostic bus. That's the one that connects to the DLC (diagnostic link connector) under the dash. Now days that bus communicates only with a security gateway, and that gateway connects to the other busses (sometimes including a dedicated CAN bus for the wireless module).
This is an example, and what I have in the trunk of my car. There's a few of these blocks throughout the car, but the green block is the CAN-C bus and the white block is the CAN-IHS bus. They do not connect to each other, and the connectors are keyed differently so you can't plug a module into the wrong bus.
I was refering to the open ports for expansion and the isolation of critical systems from basic operating systems. for example: the current tech allows a failure in a mileage enhancement feature to place the vehicle in "recovery mode" which is extremely restrictive. I had a transmission thottle sensor failure on my Dodge which made the vehicle inoperative vs just allowing less efficient shifting and "harder shifts" note that the harder shifts were just what all trannies had several years ago and not damaging in any way.
Yeah that's intentional. If a feature malfunctioning didn't affect the drivability of the vehicle, users would likely just ignore the dead feature and keep using the vehicle like the transportation device it really is. Manufactures want to force you back to their dealer network for every little thing that goes wrong.
This is the business model that I’m hoping never makes it to vehicles…forcing you to use a dealer for repairs:
www.agweek.com
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North Dakota farm sues John Deere in federal class action suit
A Forest River, North Dakota, farm says the ag equipment giant monopolizes the service market.
www.agweek.com
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This is the business model that I’m hoping never makes it to vehicles…forcing you to use a dealer for repairs:
North Dakota farm sues John Deere in federal class action suit
A Forest River, North Dakota, farm says the ag equipment giant monopolizes the service market.
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Subaru Is Disabling StarLink In Massachusetts For Right-To-Repair Compliance
Subaru previously said that disabling the system for Massachusetts buyers was a "practical impossibility"
jalopnik.com
Don’t forget subscription-based features are becoming mainstream, too. That shît is for the birds.
That's an expense we shouldn't have to deal with. For enthusiast cars people will spring for it, but most consumer cars are seen as disposable so paying decent money for an aftermarket work around won't be viable. It's just going to push cars into junk yards sooner, raise new car prices, and start to price vehicle ownership out of the middle class.
Now if an aftermarket work around is only like $100 people will buy it, but that's not what I'd consider lucrative for developers.
You also have to be wary that manufactures are lobbying hard to make these sort of aftermarket modifications illegal as well as fear-mongering you'll be raped by your mechanic.
