Pitbull attack in S.A. kills elderly man

[smittyb]

Well..yeah..you kinda did - after he said an operator 'allowed' the gun to fire, like giving the gun permission to do something on it's own...




your reply -

No, I did not.
Saying that something sounds like a leftist talking point absolutely does NOT equate to calling someone a libtard.
No way, shape, or form.

 

[striker55]

What a horrible way to die! The man lived a long life to be taken away like that.

 

[Axxe55]

yhis entire discussion iassinine and going nowhere some people have their minds made up that certain dog breeds are dangerous and more prone to violence than other breeds! Fact is if a large dog attacks a peron regardless of what breed they are they are going to do massive amounts of damage!if you're scared of pit bulls then don't get one if you don't like guns no one is forcing you to get one!

 

[MountainGirl]

No, I did not.
Saying that something sounds like a leftist talking point absolutely does NOT equate to calling someone a libtard.
No way, shape, or form.

Generally not.
Maybe this time it was one of those micro-aggressions.

 

[jrbfishn]

Exactly
Also no one called you a libtard or a liberal.

You did call me a leftist. I ain't. In no way shape or form.
The other, I admit I skimmed some and misunderstood a post.

But y'all are so hung up on "the breed" that you have no real stats in context just like the gun grabers. And using the same style arguments. Large caliber/large breed vs small caliber/ small breed. Gun deaths vs gun murder. Gun violence vs just plain violence. Death by breed but leave out ATTACKS by breed.......wake the hell up. Y'all consider yIurselves smarte than to use the arguments, don't use their argument style.
How about dog attacks period? I have been attacked by FAR more small to medium sized dogs than pitbulls. Under the right circumstances they can kill as well. Just like 22lr vs 5.56 AR. Same caliber. BUT, one has a much scarier look and worse reputation. Is it ok to shoot someone a bunch of times with a 22lr because it is weaker than a 5.56? After all, it's not near as deadly. Sm/med mutt vs a pitbull. Both can be dangerous in the wrong hands. Is it ok to call for a ban on pitbulls because of possibilities? Then why not 5.56 because of possibilities? That is "OMG think of the children!!!!" arguments.
Whether it is guns or dogs, if you want to reduce attacks from them,,,START HOLDING THE PERSON IN CONTROL OF THEM RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ATTACK. Period.
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[Spcwolf]

There are just too many incidents involving these dogs. Reports come in from all across the country practically every day.
My brother's kids had a toy dachsund that, literally, was ripped in half by a couple of loose pits.
Poor kids got to witness that shit.
My own daughter got charged by one. Damn dog would of got her too if I hadn't of been there.
Long ago when I was a kid a local rancher had a herd of Barbados sheep penned up. Some pits got in and killed the entire bunch. Just ripped them up. Didn't eat them. Just killed them.
Sorry. they don't get a doggy pass any more.

Moonpie are you sure it’s not the pet but the owners? I hear they are really nanny dogs and should be the constant companion to small children and the elderly.

Maybe you’re just racist or something.
/s
Yeah I hate shitbulls. 2 years ago 2 shitbulls treed a bunch of little kids on Halloween in my neighborhood. It wasn’t my kids and I wasn’t there, but if I was there would have been shots fired.

 

[Spcwolf]

imo there are no bad dog breeds only bad dog owners

Well if you completely ignore the history of the breed then you would be right.

But sorry you are not entitled to your own facts.

 

[jrbfishn]

Generally not.
Maybe this time it was one of those micro-aggressions.

Anyone who knows me can tell you I don't do micro agressions. If I am pissed, you will know it.
As far as allowed,,, check usage and definition.
Allowed- given permission.
Result of an action
Alec Baldwin allowed the death woman due to his negligent handling of a firearm.
Some words mean more than one thing.

I ain't no average dummy. I am a slightly above average slightly educated dummy. I did however think YOU were better and smarter than that. Or was I wrong? I hope I was. I have been fairly impressed with you since you have been here. Others, not so much. Most of the negative folks in this thread have the same reaction every time, Pitbulls scare me and should be banned!!!! And they look for the sensational attacks to back it up. Just like the antigun people with ARs.

A Cane Corso, Perinese or Ridgeback in protection mode is just as deadly as any Pitbull. I have seen Rottwiellers break bones while playing with people. Imagine the damage when it attacks.

The problem is the operator in control/lack of control that is the problem. Not the weapon.


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[Spcwolf]

Dog brain study refutes every major claim of pit bull advocacy - Animals 24-7

There may already be weeping and gnashing of teeth among pit bull advocates, and perhaps significant fundraising underway to trump up rebuttals, too, following the September 2, 2019 Journal of Neuroscience publication of “Significant neuroanatomical variation among domestic dog breeds,” by...

www.animals24-7.org

It’s the breed, just deal with it. It’s a designer animal bread to be violent and unpredictable by dog fighters.

Any comparing of dogs to guns is stupid, there is no constitutional right given by God to own a pit bull.

 

[jrbfishn]

Well if you completely ignore the history of the breed then you would be right.

But sorry you are not entitled to your own facts.

The breed was ORIGINALLY developed to be a strong, fearless and tenacious working dog. Until someone figured out that those same qualities also were the building blocks for a fighting dogs. Unscrupulous people took it from there.

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[Spcwolf]

The breed was ORIGINALLY developed to be a strong, fearless and tenacious working dog. Until someone figured out that those same qualities also were the building blocks for a fighting dogs. Unscrupulous people took it from there.

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Wikipedia says different, but as it is Wikipedia take it for what it is worth.

“It is believed all dogs that are now classified as pit bulls descend from the British bull and terrier, which were first imported into North America in the 1870s.[6][7] The bull-and-terrier was a breed of dog developed in the United Kingdom in the early 19th century for the blood sports of dog fighting and rat baiting, it was created by crossing the ferocious, thickly muscled Old English Bulldog with the agile, lithe, feisty Black and Tan Terrier.[6][7] The aggressive Old English Bulldog, which was bred for bear and bull baiting, was often also pitted against its own kind in organised dog fights, but it was found that lighter, faster dogs were better suited to dogfighting than the heavier Bulldog.[6][7][8] To produce a lighter, faster more agile dog that retained the courage and tenacity of the Bulldog, outcrosses from local terriers were tried, and ultimately found to be successful.[6][7][8]”

 

[BeatTheTunaUp]

Anyone who knows me can tell you I don't do micro agressions. If I am pissed, you will know it.
As far as allowed,,, check usage and definition.
Allowed- given permission.
Result of an action
Alec Baldwin allowed the death woman due to his negligent handling of a firearm.
Some words mean more than one thing.

I ain't no average dummy. I am a slightly above average slightly educated dummy. I did however think YOU were better and smarter than that. Or was I wrong? I hope I was. I have been fairly impressed with you since you have been here. Others, not so much. Most of the negative folks in this thread have the same reaction every time, Pitbulls scare me and should be banned!!!! And they look for the sensational attacks to back it up. Just like the antigun people with ARs.

A Cane Corso, Perinese or Ridgeback in protection mode is just as deadly as any Pitbull. I have seen Rottwiellers break bones while playing with people. Imagine the damage when it attacks.

The problem is the operator in control/lack of control that is the problem. Not the weapon.


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So if someone doesn't like pits, they're stupid. Got it.

 

[MountainGirl]

Anyone who knows me can tell you I don't do micro agressions. If I am pissed, you will know it.
As far as allowed,,, check usage and definition.
Allowed- given permission.
Result of an action
Alec Baldwin allowed the death woman due to his negligent handling of a firearm.
Some words mean more than one thing.

I ain't no average dummy. I am a slightly above average slightly educated dummy. I did however think YOU were better and smarter than that. Or was I wrong? I hope I was. I have been fairly impressed with you since you have been here. Others, not so much. Most of the negative folks in this thread have the same reaction every time, Pitbulls scare me and should be banned!!!! And they look for the sensational attacks to back it up. Just like the antigun people with ARs.

A Cane Corso, Perinese or Ridgeback in protection mode is just as deadly as any Pitbull. I have seen Rottwiellers break bones while playing with people. Imagine the damage when it attacks.

The problem is the operator in control/lack of control that is the problem. Not the weapon.


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Oh, you weren't wrong at all !
Your lowered opinion of me is probably still too high.

 

[gll]

Dog brain study refutes every major claim of pit bull advocacy - Animals 24-7

There may already be weeping and gnashing of teeth among pit bull advocates, and perhaps significant fundraising underway to trump up rebuttals, too, following the September 2, 2019 Journal of Neuroscience publication of “Significant neuroanatomical variation among domestic dog breeds,” by...

www.animals24-7.org

It’s the breed, just deal with it. It’s a designer animal bread to be violent and unpredictable by dog fighters.

Any comparing of dogs to guns is stupid, there is no constitutional right given by God to own a pit bull.

Good article!

Got it...

Blocky headed dogs tend toward aggressive as a result of brain conformation. Large blocky headed dogs are potentially aggressive and dangerous.

Imagine a 70lb Chihuahua!

I think some owners here have described their pit bulls as "goofy" before; that description also turns up in the article. My observation of pit bull types is that they aren't very smart, which probably looks goofy, but I'm coming from border collies...

The idea of function following conformation can even be seen in human variation, but in humans, intelligence and societal controls work to moderate aggressiveness.

Dogs have less self control than humans. Pit bull types are especially potentially dangerous, due to their size, especially in the absence of their controllers.

 

[mongoose]

It is my understanding that SA does not allow Pitts in the city limits. Was this outside city limits?

 

[PDiddy]

spoken like a true ily ignorant person!first degree murder requires intent on the part of the perpetrator!

those thinking about shooting dogs might want mull over thisfirst animal cruelty is afelny in texas iow's you better have justification for shooting a dog

Can I Shoot a Dog in Texas?

According to Texas law, killing a non-livestock animal is a felony, but this do

theflashdogs.com

Slow your roll douchebag, I never said anything about murder. Don't chew on words and then try putting them in my mouth. FFS learn to read for comprehension. While you're at it, learn how to use the space key effectively.

 

[Spcwolf]

Good article!

Got it...

Blocky headed dogs tend toward aggressive as a result of brain conformation. Large blocky headed dogs are potentially aggressive and dangerous.

Imagine a 70lb Chihuahua!

I think some owners here have described their pit bulls as "goofy" before; that description also turns up in the article. My observation of pit bull types is that they aren't very smart, which probably looks goofy, but I'm coming from border collies...

The idea of function following conformation can even be seen in human variation, but in humans, intelligence and societal controls work to moderate aggressiveness.

Dogs have less self control than humans. Pit bull types are especially potentially dangerous, due to their size, especially in the absence of their controllers.

Yes, humans have messed up some breeds of dogs so much that they have created a loose cannon. And with all the ghetto dwellers continuing the tradition for dog fights it’s only going to get worse.

 

[jrbfishn]

So if someone doesn't like pits, they're stupid. Got it.

Not what I said at all.
Really?

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[candcallen]

 

[jrbfishn]

Dog brain study refutes every major claim of pit bull advocacy - Animals 24-7

There may already be weeping and gnashing of teeth among pit bull advocates, and perhaps significant fundraising underway to trump up rebuttals, too, following the September 2, 2019 Journal of Neuroscience publication of “Significant neuroanatomical variation among domestic dog breeds,” by...

www.animals24-7.org

It’s the breed, just deal with it. It’s a designer animal bread to be violent and unpredictable by dog fighters.

Any comparing of dogs to guns is stupid, there is no constitutional right given by God to own a pit bull.

So called "scientist" have vlbeen trying to show a correlation between skull size/shape and behavior for centuries. Same with ethnicity, diet, climate.....pick your poison. Have not been able to do it yet.
As for Wikipedia....really????

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