Legal to open carry an AR pistol on a motorcycle?

[Axxe55]

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[rogerdmillerco]

Can you ride around in TX with an AR slung around your back?

Sounds like a good example of a bad idea.

 

[TexasRedneck]

Sounds like a good example of a bad idea.

Why? If it's not something YOU want to do, that's fine. But if someone else wants to do it, that's none of our business. As mentioned earlier, I HAVE done it when necessary, but that was MY choice. Beyond the obvious potential of a poor contact w/an LEO (which I NEVER had), my bigger concern was a "lay-down" situation, and the resulting Bad Things that could happen to my weapon.

 

[Midlifer]

Open carrying a handgun the law is pretty specific as to a hip or shoulder holster. And AR pistol is still a handgun.

Slinging a rifle is very different under Texas law

 

[Younggun]

Open carrying a handgun the law is pretty specific as to a hip or shoulder holster. And AR pistol is still a handgun.

Slinging a rifle is very different under Texas law

Please quote the law that is pretty specific about a hip holster.


I bet you can’t.


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[Curt 58]

I take my Long guns with me on my motorcycle often. To the Range, my Buddies Ranch (for Dove or Deer Season) or down to see my kids halfway across the State to get some shooting in.

I built a rifle scabbard mount behind my left saddle bag/ pannier with the barrel in a carrier where the left passengers peg is. So basically I would have to stop, dismount, unlock the firerm to remove it off the bike. Never been stopped. in over 12 years of carrying my long guns this way.

It's behind the left side on the KLR because the muffler is on the right side.
I should mention I ride an ADV Motorcycles (KLR & Yamaha Super Tenere). I've seen Harley gun holsters that mount to the passengers peg mounts. Evn one that was built into saddle type seat.

I extended the left passenger peg and built a "U" loop on top of the extension. The built a bracket on the back of the frame that is behind the left pannier. This allows me to use different rear racks. There is a piece of heavy wall tubing that inserts through the tubing and through the trigger loop & western leather saddle scabbard and the lock slides over the pin shaft. Basically a small trailer locking pin.
I lock it down in case I need to go to the bathroom or inside a gas station and leave the bike unattended at the pump.

I have never had any issue with anyone trying to steal my long guns. Sometimes it's a Shotgun, sometimes it's my deer rifle.
I do have a plastic ATV scabbard, but have yet to mount it. I find it too large and attracts too much attention!
"Rifle Mounted"

And I have another set up built for the Yamaha but have yet to mount it. I prefer to ride my KLR when going into the boonies!

As was mentioned by someone else, I would not consider slinging on my body for fear of repercussions during a hard get off.
I don't "Lay er Down" as they say, I use both my brakes and avoidance manuevers all the way to the scene of the crash.
(I've pulled some stoppies to keep from striking a car that turned in front of me.) (Up Graded brakes on the KLR) But laying her down to avoid an accident is an accident.

When I first built my long gun carrier I built one that had the gun butt angled forward pointing toward the handlebars. LIke some do on horses, but felt it put too much engine heat on the firearms. And blocked my access to the reserve lever on the fuel tank. And since we aren't at war here, I don't see a need for that quick an access.

So the rear pointing mount works best for transporting my long guns. It's well hidden out of site! The 30-30's butt plate sticks out right under the left turn signal. (Very few people notice it.)

But, I should point out I carry a holstered sidearm on me when I ride too. I actually have a holster that I can draw with my left hand while riding. Had it custom made in fact.

All that to say this, Sling it if you want to, but be prepared to be stopped a lot and have your background run through NCIS.

Or secure it on the machine in a non threatening system and take it with you. A quick release lock would be ideal like the Squad Cars use in their cars if you really feel the need to be fast on the draw. I have one in my RV that has a hidden magnetic lock release button. Pretty cool actually!

Texas LEO's are not so "man with a gun" paranoid as other States, but some of the more Liberal Cities PD Officers will investigate why someone feels the need to have an AR that accessable.
Remember, it's their job to protect everybody from every nutjob out there. And you dont have a "I'm one of the good guys" written across your back. So they might want to check you out for themselves. Tell him not to get butt hurt if he get stopped a lot. They will eventually get to know he's a good guy and leave him alone.

Here's a picture of it with the Panniers off the bike and a smaller rear orange rack mounted.
And a second picture of the panniers rack on the bike, but the scabbard is not in the picture, so use your imagination.
(The two racks are different and the panniers are mounted to the silver rack. The scabbard fits behind it mounted to the bike.)
I added a 3rd picture to show how much room there is behind the pannier. If you zoom in you can see the rifle carrier, minus the scabbard, in there. It works for me!
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[Darkpriest667]

I take my Long guns with me on my motorcycle often. To the Range, my Buddies Ranch (for Dove or Deer Season) or down to see my kids halfway across the State to get some shooting in.

I built a rifle scabbard mount behind my left saddle bag/ pannier with the barrel in a carrier where the left passengers peg is. So basically I would have to stop, dismount, unlock the firerm to remove it off the bike. Never been stopped. in over 12 years of carrying my long guns this way.

It's behind the left side on the KLR because the muffler is on the right side.
I should mention I ride an ADV Motorcycles (KLR & Yamaha Super Tenere). I've seen Harley gun holsters that mount to the passengers peg mounts. Evn one that was built into saddle type seat.

I extended the left passenger peg and built a "U" loop on top of the extension. The built a bracket on the back of the frame that is behind the left pannier. This allows me to use different rear racks. There is a piece of heavy wall tubing that inserts through the tubing and through the trigger loop & western leather saddle scabbard and the lock slides over the pin shaft. Basically a small trailer locking pin.
I lock it down in case I need to go to the bathroom or inside a gas station and leave the bike unattended at the pump.

I have never had any issue with anyone trying to steal my long guns. Sometimes it's a Shotgun, sometimes it's my deer rifle.
I do have a plastic ATV scabbard, but have yet to mount it. I find it too large and attracts too much attention!
"Rifle Mounted"

And I have another set up built for the Yamaha but have yet to mount it. I prefer to ride my KLR when going into the boonies!

As was mentioned by someone else, I would not consider slinging on my body for fear of repercussions during a hard get off.
I don't "Lay er Down" as they say, I use both my brakes and avoidance manuevers all the way to the scene of the crash.
(I've pulled some stoppies to keep from striking a car that turned in front of me.) (Up Graded brakes on the KLR) But laying her down to avoid an accident is an accident.

When I first built my long gun carrier I built one that had the gun butt angled forward pointing toward the handlebars. LIke some do on horses, but felt it put too much engine heat on the firearms. And blocked my access to the reserve lever on the fuel tank. And since we aren't at war here, I don't see a need for that quick an access.

So the rear pointing mount works best for transporting my long guns. It's well hidden out of site! The 30-30's butt plate sticks out right under the left turn signal. (Very few people notice it.)

But, I should point out I carry a holstered sidearm on me when I ride too. I actually have a holster that I can draw with my left hand while riding. Had it custom made in fact.

All that to say this, Sling it if you want to, but be prepared to be stopped a lot and have your background run through NCIS.

Or secure it on the machine in a non threatening system and take it with you. A quick release lock would be ideal like the Squad Cars use in their cars if you really feel the need to be fast on the draw. I have one in my RV that has a hidden magnetic lock release button. Pretty cool actually!

Texas LEO's are not so "man with a gun" paranoid as other States, but some of the more Liberal Cities PD Officers will investigate why someone feels the need to have an AR that accessable.
Remember, it's their job to protect everybody from every nutjob out there. And you dont have a "I'm one of the good guys" written across your back. So they might want to check you out for themselves. Tell him not to get butt hurt if he get stopped a lot. They will eventually get to know he's a good guy and leave him alone.

Here's a picture of it with the Panniers off the bike and a smaller rear orange rack mounted.
And a second picture of the panniers rack on the bike, but the scabbard is not in the picture, so use your imagination.
(The two racks are different and the panniers are mounted to the silver rack. The scabbard fits behind it mounted to the bike.)
I added a 3rd picture to show how much room there is behind the pannier. If you zoom in you can see the rifle carrier, minus the scabbard, in there. It works for me!
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Great information, I lived in Rhome for like 2 months in 2000.

 

[Curt 58]

Great information, I lived in Rhome for like 2 months in 2000.

I love living out here, but the expansion is moving in on us. They say we are going to be the next Frisco. Wife and I are looking for land in the Hill Country with a runway in the backyard like we have now. KIds and Grandkids are speading out all over.

 

[TexasRedneck]

A "lay down" isn't only a "choice to avoid collision". It can also happen in a sweep where some jackwagon has blown leaves/grass clippings. So, yeah - a lay down CAN happen, even to the best of 'em. I did 55 years on two wheels, never laid it down - but I always thought in terms of "what if".

 

[Darkpriest667]

A "lay down" isn't only a "choice to avoid collision". It can also happen in a sweep where some jackwagon has blown leaves/grass clippings. So, yeah - a lay down CAN happen, even to the best of 'em. I did 55 years on two wheels, never laid it down - but I always thought in terms of "what if".

So I hve a new riding mower and I was blowing the clippings into the street. My mother was sweeping them up. I asked her why., She explained for the exact reason you just stated. I never knew. I imagine a lot of people dont know that.

 

[Hoji]

So I hve a new riding mower and I was blowing the clippings into the street. My mother was sweeping them up. I asked her why., She explained for the exact reason you just stated. I never knew. I imagine a lot of people dont know that.

Oh, I have almost bit the pavement a couple of times riding a bicycle through fall leaf litter.

 

[TexasRedneck]

So I hve a new riding mower and I was blowing the clippings into the street. My mother was sweeping them up. I asked her why., She explained for the exact reason you just stated. I never knew. I imagine a lot of people dont know that.

And if you check your local laws/ordinances, you'll likely to find out it's illegal to put 'em in the roadway for that very reason. She might've saved ya a ticket....lol

 

[Axxe55]

Grass and leaves can create a condition that seems just like ice. Very dangerous on two wheels.

 

[benenglish]

Grass and leaves can create a condition that seems just like ice. Very dangerous on two wheels.

Back when I rode, it seemed like newly painted lane stripes and a mist of rain were a curse on me.

I laid it down once at low speed when I was brand new but it wasn't serious. My hip healed back just fine.

The thing that made me stop riding was, oddly, a car accident. I always felt that on a bike I had superior acceleration, braking, maneuverability, and situational awareness. I was sure that I'd never be hit by anyone. Then I totaled a 1977 Lincoln Town car in an accident that was completely unavoidable. I knew if I had been on my bike I would have been dead. I didn't ride after that.

 

[TexasRedneck]

Back when I rode, it seemed like newly painted lane stripes and a mist of rain were a curse on me.

I hated the crosswalk stripes. By default you were moving slow, and between rain and/or oil or condensate from a/c units, it could make you suck an entire saddle in yer butt....lol

The wife's allergies are what finally did our riding in - until then, we'd spent 15 years taking vacation on two wheels, pulling a Bushtec trailer behind the bike. We pretty much hit every state on the west coast except CA - you couldn't pay me enough to cross their state line. I did some insane amounts of riding over the years - did 60k miles in one year on a Goldwing AND worked a full-time job. All told, I likely did over 400k miles in my 50 years of riding, and don't regret a mile of it. I also rode like every SOB out there was out to kill me - between Kisan headlight modulators, full-on Whelen strobe kits (amber, of course) for low-visibility/get off my ass situations, and running Federal siren set to "growl", I learned to keep the cages at bay. Even then, I'd be lying if I didn't admit we had some VERY close calls, like hitting a sweep one trip at 70 mph about the time we got slammed by the leading edge of a front with wind gusts of 60+ mph from the inside corner - went all the way to the edge of the roadway and just managed to keep it on the tarmac. When we stopped about 30 miles later to get out of the wind, it was blowing so hard that they gave us permission to park alongside the building - the wind was pushing the bikes over!.

 

[Grumps21]

Road construction going on around here, and there’s a section of road with a steel plate over it. Not very big, maybe 6ft long if I had to guess and about the full lane wide. Rode over it on Sunday just as I have done for the past 6 months but the only difference this time is that it was during a light rain. In the 20+ years I’ve been street riding, it was the closest time I’ve ever come to dumping the bike. Residential area, and construction zone, so I hit the plate about 20-25mph, not braking or accelerating, just maintaining speed. It had a higher crown than a typical road and the tires started to come out from under me. I instinctively put my foot down and saved myself, but if the plate had been any longer I would have wiped out.

 

[Curt 58]

I should go Off Topic a little (well, actually a lot) and say that in all my years I've had the experience of my bikes going down with me on them, but it wasn't my choice for an accident avoidance. Like I said, laying her down to avoid and accident is and willfull accident.
Leaves, damp streets, rainy wet streets, sand, gravel and even fuel spilled in the apex of a corner a few times. But If I"m going to go down, I much prefer to low side it as opposed to High Siding it. Much worse results. Trust me if you haven't had that pleasure! But still, I have great brakes for a reason and practice using them.
I highsided my Crotch Rocket at 65 MPH (Legal Speed Limit if you're wondering) and got tossed headfirst into a pasture. The good part was I missed hitting a sign by 2 inches that would have sliced me in half as the edge of the sign was facing me as I flew past it. And cleared a barbed Wire Fence by 12 inches too! 3 Broken ribs and a fractured clavical later my wife is there with my pickup and the Guy who pulled out in front of me and the Local Officer helped me load my bike into the bed of my Dodge. Then the Wife drove me to the ER again. Not her 1st Rodeo for that, and definitly wasn't her last either......... Love Her to death cuz she doens't insist I stop doing things that make me who I am.

So back on topic, I would strongly advize NOT slinging a long gun across your body. There are too many other safer options.

 

[cycleguy2300]

Only time I've been off the bike on the road was back in December when we had a good snow. I rode into work anyway, just to do it. I had a walking pace drop when I hit a slick spot turning onto a side road. Just made me laugh.

I've worked my share of moto crashes...ProTip: If you dont want to go into Federal custody when released from the hospital, dont crash with drugs and stolen guns...

I'm riding from S ATX to Killeen early tomorrow, for a funeral escort for a on-duty death. Leaving about 0430h and looking forward to some clear roads.

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[ktaylor966]

Can you ride around in TX with an AR slung around your back?

Can you ride around in TX with an AR slung around your back?

I doubt that! I do open carry a Glock 17 in an OWB hip holster (situated at 3 o’clock) when I ride my Harley. I’ve never been pulled over. Of course I’m older and ride on a Trike and it’s a nice rig and my ‘ol Lady is on the back so the cops must assume I’m not a criminal.

 

[Grumps21]

Ww

Only time I've been off the bike on the road was back in December when we had a good snow. I rode into work anyway, just to do it. I had a walking pace drop when I hit a slick spot turning onto a side road. Just made me laugh.

I've worked my share of moto crashes...ProTip: If you dont want to go into Federal custody when released from the hospital, dont crash with drugs and stolen guns...

I'm riding from S ATX to Killeen early tomorrow, for a funeral escort for a on-duty death. Leaving about 0430h and looking forward to some clear roads.

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wow, you are a much braver man than I am.. either that or incredibly good on two wheels. No way in hell I’d even consider riding in snow or ice on a heavy road bike. Small dual sport maybe, but nothing like your rig. Hats off to you!