Texas Secession talk

[Davetex]

 

[Davetex]

 

[TheDan]

Its your debt too.

That's right! You're born into it. It's your legacy. Thank your grandparents...

 

[zincwarrior]

That's right! You're born into it. It's your legacy. Thank your grandparents...

And your parents,
And you.

 

[Younggun]

Historically I'm right. You're not. Civil wars are typically the bloodiest conflicts nations have. Attempting to secede, thinking the US wouldn't demand you take your portion of the debt would be a political nonstarter. Therefor you'd have to try some sort of military attempt, and then the bombs come, and dissenters like the people on this forum disappear and are found in mass graves a few years later. Just ask all of Central and South America.

Checked.

No nukes used.

 

[TheDan]

And your parents,
And you.

I've never consented to it.

 

[Mreed911]

I've never consented to it.

You don't need to. It's not an individual debt.

 

[zincwarrior]

Checked.

No nukes used.

Because they didn't have them.

 

[Southpaw]

Historically I'm right. You're not. Civil wars are typically the bloodiest conflicts nations have. Attempting to secede, thinking the US wouldn't demand you take your portion of the debt would be a political nonstarter. Therefor you'd have to try some sort of military attempt, and then the bombs come, and dissenters like the people on this forum disappear and are found in mass graves a few years later. Just ask all of Central and South America.

I would venture to say that many of those "dissenters" believed they could no longer live as they had been and where well aware that the sacrifice of their own life, for the possibility of their children living a better life, was their only avenue for change.

 

[Younggun]

Because they didn't have them.

The U.S. still wouldn't use them for the same reason they haven't been used since WW2.


You're just being silly.

 

[zincwarrior]

I would venture to say that many of those "dissenters" believed they could no longer live as they had been and where well aware that the sacrifice of their own life, for the possibility of their children living a better life, was their only avenue for change.

In a true civil war their families would likely be gone too, and anyone they knew.

 

[zincwarrior]

The U.S. still wouldn't use them for the same reason they haven't been used since WW2.


You're just being silly.

This is true, as is this thread.
They wouldn't have to. They would just disappear the dissenters.

 

[Younggun]

This is true, as is this thread.
They wouldn't have to. They would just disappear the dissenters.

Historically, that doesn't work.

 

[Southpaw]

In a true civil war their families would likely be gone too, and anyone they knew.

"Likely" is the key word. For some being enslaved/oppressed isn't an option, so you take that chance.

Waiting around for a guaranteed win in any fight is a sad way to live.

 

[Younggun]

Imagine how bad it would have been if the Jews had dissented. They could have been "disappeared" for it.

Luckily, most tried to stay quiet and out of trouble.

 

[Se7en62]

Imagine how bad it would have been if the Jews had dissented. They could have been "disappeared" for it.

Luckily, most tried to stay quiet and out of trouble.

This right here is truth. They gave up their abilities to defend themselves and waited to make vital decisions until it was too late and the gears of genocide were already turning.

 

[zincwarrior]

Historically, that doesn't work.

if you say so. The dozens of civil wars the Americas have had in the last 50 years reflect, their belief it does.

 

[zincwarrior]

"Likely" is the key word. For some being enslaved/oppressed isn't an option, so you take that chance.

Waiting around for a guaranteed win in any fight is a sad way to live.

You won't be oppressed. you would be dead. if we're playing hypotheticals in the hypothetical the NSA knows where you all and they take you out very quickly, for being terrorists. Then they go get donuts.

 

[zincwarrior]

This right here is truth. They gave up their abilities to defend themselves and waited to make vital decisions until it was too late and the gears of genocide were already turning.

Equating secess wanting to secede with the Jews in WWII is frankly insulting.

 

[Younggun]

Historically I'm right. You're not. Civil wars are typically the bloodiest conflicts nations have. Attempting to secede, thinking the US wouldn't demand you take your portion of the debt would be a political nonstarter. Therefor you'd have to try some sort of military attempt, and then the bombs come, and dissenters like the people on this forum disappear and are found in mass graves a few years later. Just ask all of Central and South America.

I would venture to say that many of those "dissenters" believed they could no longer live as they had been and where well aware that the sacrifice of their own life, for the possibility of their children living a better life, was their only avenue for change.

In a true civil war their families would likely be gone too, and anyone they knew.

"Likely" is the key word. For some being enslaved/oppressed isn't an option, so you take that chance.

Waiting around for a guaranteed win in any fight is a sad way to live.

Imagine how bad it would have been if the Jews had dissented. They could have been "disappeared" for it.

Luckily, most tried to stay quiet and out of trouble.

This right here is truth. They gave up their abilities to defend themselves and waited to make vital decisions until it was too late and the gears of genocide were already turning.

Equating secess wanting to secede with the Jews in WWII is frankly insulting.

Follow the crumbs and see where the posts came from.


Don't pretend to be on any high horse by ignoring context.