Is Texas A True Conservative State ?

[m5215]

Is Texas A True Conservative State?

My neighbor is a communist but other than that, yes I think Texas is a conservative state.

 

[zincwarrior]

When we look at the maps showing which areas voted Dem, they primarily are the big cities (Austin, Houston, Dallas) and the areas with high hispanic populations (San Antonio, valley, etc.).

San Antonio is larger than Austin.

 

[AustinN4]

San Antonio is larger than Austin.

He be right! https://traveltips.usatoday.com/5-largest-cities-texas-63099.html

 

[Wiliamr]

It is a very bad idea to discount Robert Francis O'Rourke in the political arena. He could beat Cornyn in 2020. The "progressive liberal socialists" of the East and West coast see Texas as THE key to turning the USA into the next Socialist country. They will give an even more amazing sum of money to O'Rourke for 2020.

I am seeing signs that the news media is now beginning the push for the ascension of Ocassio-Torres to the National political level and soon. Look at all the news media coverage of her. How they are trying to make her out to be acceptable to voters. I submit the newest ploy - The dance video that has gone viral. News media is telling us how "adorable" or "cute" her dancing is. Then when the evil right hammered her, the media then has been pushing her "adorable" comebacks, or her "well measured" responses.

Why did I bring the New York Socialist into this. I can see this in our future: in 2020 Senate race, Republicans have 22 seats up for election and only 12 Democrat seats. Trump will continue to be hammered by the 5th column media and he will probably have to defend a Muller investigation between now and then. I can see O'Rourke sign on to run against Cornyn in 2020. Then by the Democrat convention he could get nominated pull Ocasio - Torres as VP and using the election contributions from his Senate race (which will begin in a couple months) combined with money for Presidential run will buy a ton of votes. The 2020 Presidential Primaries begin in Iowa Feb 3, 2020. Then New Hampshire, Nevada, South Carolina. By March 3, 9 more states including Texas have theirs. The Democrat National Presidential Convention is July 13 - 16 2020. All I can say is... Do NOT be complacent.

 

[oldag]

San Antonio is larger than Austin.

Yep, of course it is. But is also the city with the greatest concentration of Hispanic population in Texas, which I why I listed in in the second group.

 

[zincwarrior]

Yep, of course it is. But is also the city with the greatest concentration of Hispanic population in Texas, which I why I listed in in the second group.

I don't know, you might check the greater Houston area on that.

 

[karlac]

I don't know, you might check the greater Houston area on that.

Education being an important issue/indication of future voting trends:

https://www.houstonisd.org/site/han...taid=217137&FileName=2017-18_FactsFigures.pdf

HISD

 

[oldag]

San Antonio is 63% Hispanic, Houston only 44%.

 

[Guy Fawkes]

When did all those Californians start moving here, during The Great Recession?

 

[toddnjoyce]

When did all those Californians start moving here, during The Great Recession?

Most of the data I see shows it starting around 2003.

The data in the link is sourced from the 2004-2005 Census estimates. Table 3 is a good place to start.

https://www2.census.gov/programs-su...te-migration/state_migration_flows_tables.xls

 

[zincwarrior]

San Antonio is 63% Hispanic, Houston only 44%.

Houston has 5mm people in the area though.

 

[satx78247]

Houston has 5mm people in the area though.

zincwarrior,

YES, Houston is considerably bigger in population than San Antonio is. - But "get the message" = San Antonio has MANY more Latinos than Houston does, according to TX State government population figures.
(Fwiw, I see no reason for anyone to argue with documented facts.)

IF you add in the unincorporated areas of Bexar County, the number of Latinos (when compared to all of Harris County) is even greater than in "Metropolitan Houston".

One of the "inside jokes" in Bexar County is: "When you are south of Alamo Street, you have left the USA are in The Capitol of Latin America."

yours, satx

 

[Rhino]

I love San Antonio - my hometown. I think a LOT depends on the future GOP PR efforts and whether or not those of us who lean that way can really get over real bigotry that I've personally seen and reach out to blue collar Hispanics. Plenty of them think conservatively but vote Democrat "because" and that needs to change.

 

[HKShooter65]

It is a very bad idea to discount Robert Francis O'Rourke in the political arena. He could beat Cornyn in 2020. The "progressive liberal socialists" of the East and West coast see Texas as THE key to turning the... .

Interesting and insightful thoughts.

It seems to me that the critical move will be to find GOP candidates that address those issues that are driving centrist voters toward the socialist end of the spectrum. The Hispanic American population clearly is becoming a pivotal force in that regard.

Issues like making college education affordable, not free. Making health care and drug prices reasonable, not free. Addressing immigration reform while perhaps simultaneously building a wall. Finding ways to motivate food-stamp and welfare recipients to lift themselves out of the poverty cycle. Giving us all a serious income tax reform package that helps middle income workers as much as it has helped corporations.
We ,mostly, all agree on those issues whether we are Dem or GOP.

I'l readily admit that there are several issues like gun control or abortion legislation that irretrievably drive voters to one side or another, but let us not forget that most Americans feel there is a middle ground when it comes to things like education or healthcare or immigration. The party that conquers that middle ground will prevail

The DC GOP party is doing little to nothing to court that decisive middle 20% of the population that continues to decide elections, whilst the Dems temp them with a lot of free stuff that we know we cannot afford. Mr. O'rourke darn near convinced that middle to go his way.

Some very highly educated conservative hispanic GOP voter friends of mine are finding it increasingly quite hard to be supportive of their party presently. That's a whole other thread topic.

 

[toddnjoyce]

It seems to me that the critical move will be to find GOP candidates that address those issues that are driving centrist voters toward the socialist end of the spectrum. The Hispanic American population clearly is becoming a pivotal force in that regard.

Issues like making college education affordable, not free. Making health care and drug prices reasonable, not free. Addressing immigration reform while perhaps simultaneously building a wall. Finding ways to motivate food-stamp and welfare recipients to lift themselves out of the poverty cycle. Giving us all a serious income tax reform package that helps middle income workers as much as it has helped corporations.
We ,mostly, all agree on those issues whether we are Dem or GOP.

The DC GOP party is doing little to nothing to court that decisive middle 20% of the population that continues to decide elections. Mr. O'rourke darn near convinced that middle to go his way.

Some very highly educated conservative hispanic GOP voter friends of mine are finding it increasingly quite hard to be supportive of their party presently. That's a whole other thread topic.

I don’t know that the middle of the spectrum is beginning to lean far left; instead I think the far left is better at motivating their base to get out and vote. Some of this may be due to the incessant pandering of socialist/communist theories, market interference theories, and flat out vilification of anything other than what the far left believes in by the media.

The other thing to consider is there’s no such thing as a free lunch. In its current form, Medicare and Medicaid consumed 25% of the federal budget, to the tune of $588 billion in 2016 to cover 55.5 million people.

That’s about $10K per beneficiary. For 326 million Americans, that cost would balloon to $5.5 trillion, or about $2T more than the entire 2018 budget. Just for Medicare.

One point to ponder: if the Sallie Mae got out of the student loan business, would the private sector assume the same levels of loan risk?

 

[TheMailMan]

One point to ponder: if the Sallie Mae got out of the student loan business, would the private sector assume the same levels of loan risk?

Even with the advantage Sallie Mae has I doubt the private sector would step up. They like to get paid. No way in hell that some bank is going to loan $100k to some dewy eyed kid who wants a degree in gender studies.

 

[oldag]

GOP does not do a good job of connecting with the Hispanic communities with regard to shared values.

 

[Antares]

Better hold on to your hats the exodus from commiefornia and NY is just beginning with Blasio declaring free health care for all New York City folks and CA declaring the whole state is a sanctuary for all, They will be leaving those places by droves and coming to Texas. We might have been a conservative state but with the results of the elections just held, we will be losing that distinction come 2020. We almost did this time we in Harris county lost everyone of our conservative reps and judges. I think we need a wall protecting our state from CA and NYers. We are doomed.

 

[pronstar]

Better hold on to your hats the exodus from commiefornia and NY is just beginning with Blasio declaring free health care for all New York City folks and CA declaring the whole state is a sanctuary for all, They will be leaving those places by droves and coming to Texas. We might have been a conservative state but with the results of the elections just held, we will be losing that distinction come 2020. We almost did this time we in Harris county lost everyone of our conservative reps and judges. I think we need a wall protecting our state from CA and NYers. We are doomed.

Our voting ballots need to have callouts:
Vote for this if you want this state to become like the shithole you just left.

Then the floor can drop and they fall into a truck that takes them right back to the state they came from.




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[EZ-E]

I work in an industry where we supply products to the general public for new home construction.
I bet on any given day half my incoming calls are from out of state area codes...trans plants building here & still have their old #. As much as i hate to say it but Texas may become BLUE with all the out of state transplants we have been getting the last decade. We have lower housing prices, greater emplyment rates, no state tax & more than enough corporate breaks to have companys come here, just too many benefits to move here once your state is F'd up.

A friend of mine says we should pass a law for new transplants coming into Texas.
"if you want to vote in Texas, you must be here for 5 years before you can vote so you can see how we do things. There is a reason your leaving your F'd up state, don't come here & F up ours".