I Didn't Beat the Ride - Illegal Knife + CHL + Concealed Handgun = Jail + Charges

[Younggun]

I Didn't Beat the Ride - Illegal Knife + CHL + Concealed Handgun = Jail + Charg

Well, I just read over 60 pages of this and found it interesting.

However and no offense to the arrestee, I feel this could all have been avoided. Some way, I get the feeling he did this to test the law. The charges were dismissed but at what cost? What was proven? Did he win the case? A civil suit will not be productive since in most venues, LEO are immune from civil judgements over interpretation of the law arrests.

But the root cause was the carrying of a knife that for all purposes and intent, is unusual to carry. BTW: I worked a case many years ago where a motorcyclist was carrying a long fixed blade knife. His bike w as hit broadside by a car at an intersection and the knife ripped the bikers interstines pretty badly. What did the OP plan on doing with that knife that a folding knife would not have been able to do?

The OP might be the nicest guy we could ever meet. But he did something that, to me at least, showed bad judgement and appears he was looking for a conflict with the law.

Now when is his right to carry restored? He also has an arrest on his record, even though the charge was dismissed. In many states, not sure about TX, the CCW application asks for ALL arrests, including those that have been expunged. His headaches may not be over.

So much fail in this post.

 

[matefrio]

I know I'm late to the party, but hey, I'm here.

First, Thank You Matefrio for having the fortitude to both start and end this and I do hope you seal the deal with further legal action as was done in Columbia, MO when the same foolishness happened there.

Second, for the record, it's a moo point - like a cow's opinion, it doesn't matter.

(How's that for a first post? - hehehe)

Welcome to the forum, thanks.

 

[matefrio]

Well, I just read over 60 pages of this and found it interesting.

Glad you enjoyed the reading, You still don't get it though.

 

[Greg_TX]

Well, I just read over 60 pages of this and found it interesting.

You're just catching the tail end of it, though. This started over a year ago, so a little historical context might help:

http://www.texasguntalk.com/forums/...an-carry-illegal-knife-club-2.html#post340557

http://www.texasguntalk.com/forums/...8912-b-o-w-i-e-club-edcing-illegal-knife.html

You may read all of this and still come back to the same conclusion, but as Paul Harvey famously said: "And now you know... the rest of the story"

 

[M. Sage]

Well, I just read over 60 pages of this and found it interesting.

However and no offense to the arrestee, I feel this could all have been avoided. Some way, I get the feeling he did this to test the law. The charges were dismissed but at what cost? What was proven? Did he win the case? A civil suit will not be productive since in most venues, LEO are immune from civil judgements over interpretation of the law arrests.

But the root cause was the carrying of a knife that for all purposes and intent, is unusual to carry. BTW: I worked a case many years ago where a motorcyclist was carrying a long fixed blade knife. His bike w as hit broadside by a car at an intersection and the knife ripped the bikers interstines pretty badly. What did the OP plan on doing with that knife that a folding knife would not have been able to do?

The OP might be the nicest guy we could ever meet. But he did something that, to me at least, showed bad judgement and appears he was looking for a conflict with the law.

Now when is his right to carry restored? He also has an arrest on his record, even though the charge was dismissed. In many states, not sure about TX, the CCW application asks for ALL arrests, including those that have been expunged. His headaches may not be over.

Cool story, bro.

 

[Soldiernurse]

My goal was to make this a low risk venture for everyone including myself. What I've done, so far, fell short.

To further this I need to move forward, and not get distracted by doing the same thing over and over again for different DAs or ADAs as my lawyer gets rich expcting a different outcome..

To that end, for now, I don't plan to carry unless traveling. But I plan on not wasting the efforts so far either.

You got your CHL back (reinstated) right? Hope so!

 

[leVieux]

This is what happens to most "test cases"; isn't it ?

 

[txinvestigator]

This is what happens to most "test cases"; isn't it ?

What are you talking about?

 

[M. Sage]

What are you talking about?

I think he's asking if the life of a canary is a rough one.

 

[stepnej]

<sheep! sheep!>

Fixed it for ya!

 

[Sapper740]

Unfortunately I don't have time to read all 65 pages of posts. Would someone give us a precis of what has transpired and where Matefrio stands today?

 

[Sapper740]

I think the grammar nazis need there own forum. Would probably be for they're own good.

Cool! Can I be the moderator?

 

[Vaquero]

Cleared of charges. Got his knife back. Lives in Wisconsin.

 

[matefrio]

I've updated the OP with the status so folks don't need to read it all.

 

[Sapper740]

Cleared of charges. Got his knife back. Lives in Wisconsin.

I like laconic replies.

 

[ZX9RCAM]

I like laconic replies.

Dang, I actually had to Google that, lol....

 

[Saltyag2010]

I've updated the OP with the status so folks don't need to read it all.

I just went through a few pages today. Glad it ended up OK.
As Texans we all lost because they wanted to arrest you. Stupid stupid cops.

 

[dsukid]

Based on this concept. Then CHL + Concealed Pistol = Open carry of 2nd pistol? Same concept as carry of illegal knife same 46.02 section right?

 

[matefrio]

Based on this concept. Then CHL + Concealed Pistol = Open carry of 2nd pistol? Same concept as carry of illegal knife same 46.02 section right?

Nope, other parts of the law address the concealed requirement of the pistol. No mention of how to carry open or concealed of knives though.

 

[karlac]

Nope, other parts of the law address the concealed requirement of the pistol. No mention of how to carry open or concealed of knives though.

Read though the original many months back through a reference on another forum. Never really got a chance to say what was on my mind at the time: Were an educator searching for something for children to memorize to embed the concept of freedom in young minds, they could do no better than to chose your words in this post:

http://www.texasguntalk.com/forums/...aled-handgun-=-jail-charges-5.html#post636014

A belated, but with the utmost respect, Well Done!, sir.