45-70 for Deer

[Stukaman]

Thinken about borrowing my cousins Marlin Guide gun with a Lever gun scope from Cabelas, question is this. Is it to much gun for Texas Deer?

 

[tmd11111]

Dead is dead.

 

[scap99]

Open field, no obstructions?
Maybe....

Heavy brush?
Not at all.

It's a proven performer.


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[Acera]

Shot one three years ago with a .444 Marlin. Like tmd1111 said, dead is dead. Did not have to track it, dropped it right in it's tracks. Place you shot well and have a good clean harvest.

 

[Dawico]

45-70 is more than you need but if that is what you have go for it.

 

[Stukaman]

Well people are always ok with say a .270 at 3000fps what's wrong with a 300 something grain 45-70 slug at 2000?

 

[TreyG-20]

Couldn't be any worse than a 1oz slug from a shotgun.

 

[Texan2]

Is using 6 cans of "Raid" on one roach too much? Dead is dead.

 

[alexrex20]

Depends where you hunt. 45-70 starts dropping like a brick after 150yds.

 

[Stukaman]

In a stand in maypearl Texas I guess I could borrow a 357 lever gun but it has no scope.

 

[mikeofcontex]

The leverevolution rounds with a soft tip help stretch the range of the 45-70. In "all" cases, it's ballistics are better than the 357 magnum. I've been succesful a couple of times with a 45-70 and you won't have to track the deer.

 

[alexrex20]

If your other option is a 357, then pick the 45-70. Dead is dead, and should make for good hog medicine if you happen upon a few.

My point on hunting location has to do with the expected shot distance. Even in the LeverEvolution it drops 28 inches at 300yds.

 

[Stukaman]

Yeah option number three is an iron sighted Remington model 700 in .270 that was my grandfathers

 

[Younggun]

I see no problem with a 45-70. Heavy and slow is a good combo. Not like your gonna blow its leg off or anything.


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[winchster]

Inside 200 yards it will drop it. Don't care what "it" is. Sighted in @ 100 the drop @ 200 is going to be less than 9". The leverlution should be a little flatter than that.

 

[ROGER4314]

I've always wanted a 45-70 rifle but never got there. It's probably just as well because it's expensive to reload. I am familiar with the ballistics, however and it will knock a deer off of its feet. I'm also a fan of the 12 gauge shotgun slug and put them roughly in the same category with accuracy award of the two going to the 45-70.

I have an 870 Remington with a rifled slug, iron sight barrel and my neighbor has been working on getting a place for us to hunt hogs. That slug gun may be my choice for hogs. If I had the elusive 45-70, I might choose it, instead.

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[alexrex20]

Rifled slugs in my semiauto 12ga make for an excellent hog gun. If you're a levergun purist and intend to keep it iron sights, then there's really no advantage to the 45-70 rifle because you're not going to be stretching its legs much past 100yds. Anyway, most all hog hunting (for me) happens at 50yds or less.

 

[winchster]

Rifled slugs in my semiauto 12ga make for an excellent hog gun. If you're a levergun purist and intend to keep it iron sights, then there's really no advantage to the 45-70 rifle because you're not going to be stretching its legs much past 100yds. Anyway, most all hog hunting (for me) happens at 50yds or less.

Come on now, you can't really believe there's no advantage to a 45-70 over a slug barrel. You do realize people use iron sights for far greater distances than 100 yards right? The 45-70 has been a proven round for more than 100 years. The army once tested it for volley fire at 2 miles.

 

[alexrex20]

If you want to hunt with a .45-70 with iron sights at 500yds, be my guest. I would rather use my 30-30. I'm not saying the .45-70 isn't capable of long-range shots, just that it's not practical. The ballistics don't lie. There are much better cartridges in much more obtainable platforms than a .45-70 lever gun. That's why for every .45-70 rifle out there, there are a few dozen 270s, 243s, 308s, 30-06s, 25-06s, 22-250s, etc.

A .45ACP bullet can hit a target a mile away also. Doesn't mean it's going to be accurate, precise, or retain any usable energy.

 

[winchster]

I never said it was a good choice for 500 but you said it was equivalent to a shotgun slug and no good past 100.

It's usable, highly effective range is equal to the 30-30. Out to about 200 yards. Past that it drops off pretty significantly.