1st Debate Thread

[Mike1234567]

This second link wasn't here when I responded. It still doesn't help your argument. Theres nothing illegal about using the tax laws that are being enforced. Hillary is using the same tax laws. We're not using them because we don't file the same type of tax returns as multi-billionaires or multi-millionaires. They don't use a 1040-ez

I realize that... and I agree. I only posted those links to prove Trump is just as much a liar and hypocrite as Clinton. Those who blindly support Trump just because he's the GOP candidate haven't bothered to investigate and learn/accept what a jackass Trump truly is. Either that or they refuse to accept and believe what their eyes and ears see and hear. Trump and Clinton are (in reality) two peas in the same pod.

 

[Mike1234567]

Because we live in a Republic and votes are needed to pass a budgets, else the economy goes into a Depression.

I'm sorry to break the news to you but we haven't lived in a Republic for a very very very long time. In fact, we're not even living in a true Democracy. What we do live in is much closer to an Oligarchy than anything else... or even worse, a Corporatism.

 

[AustinN4]

Only that Trump is a hypocritical liar who flip-flops on the issues as if he's just changing his shirt. No, Clinton is no better overall.

So far, Trump hasn't gotten anyone killed. Can't say that for Clinton.

 

[zincwarrior]

So far, Trump hasn't gotten anyone killed. Can't say that for Clinton.

Depends on how many people committed suicide resulting from his many and varied bankruptcies. Else thats no achievement as he was in real estate.

 

[Saltyag2010]

Someone having a different opinion than you is not what the English language calls a lie, but if that floats your boat cool.


Its not on the party platform. The fact that a few support it doesn't make it either a Republican or Conservative position.

Trump is a democrat is a lie that was posted by you. He is running as the Republican candidate for president. It's a documented fact. You say "a few" as if there are a small number of republicans that support these moderate or liberal policies. If you look up the supporters you'll have a real number. A few isn't a number at all. Don't lump republican with conservative, republican is a party and conservative is a set of ideas. Republicans aren't inherently conservative like libertarians usually are.

Since when do insane federal budgets keep America's economy from a depression? It's the other way around. The economy can become depressed by the government taxing and spending. Thats not what I stated though. I said that republicans are liberal for financially supporting Obamacare and planned parenthood when they passed the budget. I do not care if the "government shuts down" because a wasteful, crony, and unsustainable budget wasn't approved.

 

[Saltyag2010]

Depends on how many people committed suicide resulting from his many and varied bankruptcies. Else thats no achievement as he was in real estate.

Do you have any people you can name that committed suicide only because of a bankruptcy that trump filed?

Is a choice to take your own life as bad as murder?

 

[Saltyag2010]

I realize that... and I agree. I only posted those links to prove Trump is just as much a liar and hypocrite as Clinton. Those who blindly support Trump just because he's the GOP candidate haven't bothered to investigate and learn/accept what a jackass Trump truly is. Either that or they refuse to accept and believe what their eyes and ears see and hear. Trump and Clinton are (in reality) two peas in the same pod.

Did he lie? Did he say how much tax he paid?

How is is he a hypocrite? Is he trying to make other billionaires pay more?

I don't see how he lied about what he paid or how he is hypocritical. Hillary is the hypocrite for starting a made up controversy where she used the same tax practices and attacked trump for doing the same thing she has done.

 

[Shady]

I love that people are mad that Trump used the tax laws voted in by the likes of Hillery and the rest of the no good life time politicians He played by the rules and even he thinks its unfair but he is also not stupid enough to not use the law to his advantage.

and his 1 billion is chump change to the 6 Billion Hillery lost as sec of state
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/apr/4/state-dept-misplaced-6b-under-hillary-clinton-ig-r/

 

[zincwarrior]

Trump is a democrat is a lie that was posted by you. He is running as the Republican candidate for president. It's a documented fact. You say "a few" as if there are a small number of republicans that support these moderate or liberal policies. If you look up the supporters you'll have a real number. A few isn't a number at all. Don't lump republican with conservative, republican is a party and conservative is a set of ideas. Republicans aren't inherently conservative like libertarians usually are.

Since when do insane federal budgets keep America's economy from a depression? It's the other way around. The economy can become depressed by the government taxing and spending. Thats not what I stated though. I said that republicans are liberal for financially supporting Obamacare and planned parenthood when they passed the budget. I do not care if the "government shuts down" because a wasteful, crony, and unsustainable budget wasn't approved.

What party he is running in does not reflect who he really is.

I do not care if the "government shuts down" because a wasteful, crony, and unsustainable budget wasn't approved.

Those of us who do not want to live in a retelling of the last days of the Weimar Republic don't. Nothing says (we fucked up) like 50% unemployment, open civil war, and worthless currency.

I love that people are mad that Trump used the tax laws voted in by the likes of Hillery and the rest of the no good life time politicians

WE're not on a swing saw. I can think Trump is vomitous filth incarnate while still thinking HRC is a walking rectal exam.

 

[Saltyag2010]

What party he is running in does not reflect who he really is.

I look at facts. Fact is he has a R. I'm out.

 

[Mike1234567]

So far, Trump hasn't gotten anyone killed. Can't say that for Clinton.

1. We don't know that.

2. You may be right.

3. Trump is one crazy MoFo.

 

[Mike1234567]

Trump is a democrat is a lie that was posted by you. He is running as the Republican candidate for president. It's a documented fact. You say "a few" as if there are a small number of republicans that support these moderate or liberal policies. If you look up the supporters you'll have a real number. A few isn't a number at all. Don't lump republican with conservative, republican is a party and conservative is a set of ideas. Republicans aren't inherently conservative like libertarians usually are.

Since when do insane federal budgets keep America's economy from a depression? It's the other way around. The economy can become depressed by the government taxing and spending. Thats not what I stated though. I said that republicans are liberal for financially supporting Obamacare and planned parenthood when they passed the budget. I do not care if the "government shuts down" because a wasteful, crony, and unsustainable budget wasn't approved.

Bush bailed out the big banks.

 

[Mike1234567]

Did he lie? Did he say how much tax he paid?

How is is he a hypocrite? Is he trying to make other billionaires pay more?

I don't see how he lied about what he paid or how he is hypocritical. Hillary is the hypocrite for starting a made up controversy where she used the same tax practices and attacked trump for doing the same thing she has done.

Apparently, you didn't view both of those links... words from Trump's own mouth. Contradictory, to say the very least. Look/see... listen/hear... understand/believe.

 

[zincwarrior]

I look at facts. Fact is he has a R. I'm out.

To be accurate its Fact is he is running as the Republican candidate, not that he is a Republican. I'm in.

 

[zincwarrior]

Bush bailed out the big banks.

As did Reagan with the S&L crisis.

 

[Mike1234567]

As did Reagan with the S&L crisis.

I know. Mommy and Daddy told us that ALL Republicans are saints and ALL Liberals are evil. But the truth is they are ALL ONE AND THE SAME!!

 

[texas skeeter]

Still Bashing Trump eh? Lol

Hillary LIED people DIED!!

Trump LIED and no one DIED!!

nuff said....

 

[zincwarrior]

Still Bashing Trump eh? Lol

Hillary LIED people DIED!!

Trump LIED and no one DIED!!

nuff said....

The local mail man lied and no one died! Mail Man for President!

Meanwhile back at the Hall of Justice...

 

[texas skeeter]

It's just amazing some here disregard and could care less Americans died under Hitlery's Leadership!

 

[zincwarrior]

Whole bushels died under Eisenhower. Same for Bush. Its like Grant's big claim to fame was a whole lot of killy killy.