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[The Lox]

I really wish we would have pushed more on the Shall Certify legistlation proposed last time. In my opinion that makes all of this concern a little less "scary".

The only thing I wanted to add to the stable was an SBR Scorpion. I guess I might have to go find one now and file the forms..

 

[texas skeeter]

If we already have a trust with an NFA item or 2. will this make it I cannot add anymore items to my current trust if this was to pass as is?

 

[SC-Texas]

Correct. Without fingerprints photo cleo

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[Sugar Land]

Are old trusts grandfathered?

 

[35Remington]

Are old trusts grandfathered?

Negative, ghostrider.

EDIT: Well let me clarify just in case anyone misreads. Old purchases are not in jeopardy. New purchases using old trusts would be subject to the new rules.

 

[The Lox]

Correct. Without fingerprints photo cleo

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In Texas is a local chief of police someone who can sign? Or does it have to be a sheriff?

 

[Mreed911]

In Texas is a local chief of police someone who can sign? Or does it have to be a sheriff?

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/who...f-form-1-or-atf-form-4-making-or-transfer-nfa

 

[The Lox]

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/who...f-form-1-or-atf-form-4-making-or-transfer-nfa

Thank you sir!

 

[scap99]

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/who...f-form-1-or-atf-form-4-making-or-transfer-nfa

So would the police chief of West U, Bellaire, Hedwig Village, South Houston, etc be a valid signature if someone lived in that jurisdiction?

 

[Mreed911]

So would the police chief of West U, Bellaire, Hedwig Village, South Houston, etc be a valid signature if someone lived in that jurisdiction?

Seems like it.

 

[Se7en62]

Damnit. I have so much other shit to buy before this house of cards comes falling down...

What's the absolute cheapest and fastest route to get a NFA trust set up and a silencer en route?

Best I have seen is the $120-ish for the NFA through SilencerShop and then the $400 Kestrel 9 (Silencer Shop says it's good for anything from a 9mm to a .308) and it's $200 Tax Stamp.

 

[winchster]

I'd call Sean for the trust. I wouldn't shave $230 on the off chance the generic cheap trust would keep me out of jail

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[Se7en62]

You really think the trust that Silencer Shop provides to their customers is something that could shrink their consumer demographic by risking them being put in jail?

 

[breakingcontact]

I'd call Sean for the trust. I wouldn't shave $230 on the off chance the generic cheap trust would keep me out of jail

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Would you pay $600? $800?

 

[Mreed911]

You really think the trust that Silencer Shop provides to their customers is something that could shrink their consumer demographic by risking them being put in jail?

For not much more I had someone else do my trust (an attorney) but had it customized a bit to meet my specific needs. Out of deference to Sean, I won't post where I got mine but I'm willing to discuss it (and the changes I requested) in PM.

I'd definitely recommend an attorney-driven trust, if only because of the ramifications of a poorly executed one. I have no qualms recommending Sean, either, even though I didn't use him because he's active here and answers general questions.

 

[duckknot]

So if I understand correctly....this could spell the end of using a trust to purchase NFA items....and existing trusts will not be grandfathered which would effectively make them obsolete.

So rushing to establish a trust is a bad idea if I do not have the funds to immediately get papers started on said NFA items.......right?

 

[duckknot]

Also....could I establish a trust, pay for a few tax stamps and then use those a few months or even years down the road to purchase a suppressor or 7?

 

[Se7en62]

So if I understand correctly....this could spell the end of using a trust to purchase NFA items....and existing trusts will not be grandfathered which would effectively make them obsolete.

So rushing to establish a trust is a bad idea if I do not have the funds to immediately get papers started on said NFA items.......right?

That's the way I see it, thus why I am considering a cheap multi-caliber can so I don't have to completely break the bank to get one in my hands.

 

[Mreed911]

Also....could I establish a trust, pay for a few tax stamps and then use those a few months or even years down the road to purchase a suppressor or 7?

Tax stamps can only be bought for specific, serialized items. In short, no.

 

[duckknot]

For not much more I had someone else do my trust (an attorney) but had it customized a bit to meet my specific needs. Out of deference to Sean, I won't post where I got mine but I'm willing to discuss it (and the changes I requested) in PM.

I'd definitely recommend an attorney-driven trust, if only because of the ramifications of a poorly executed one. I have no qualms recommending Sean, either, even though I didn't use him because he's active here and answers general questions.

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