Call to arms! Defund ATF 41P! It's coming

[00ChevyScott]

So what's the plan for what happens to the weapons when you die?

My beneficiary is my Sister, who I would trust with any of my possessions.

 

[Mreed911]

My beneficiary is my Sister, who I would trust with any of my possessions.

If she's not a trustee she'll have to get a stamp to actually possess any of them legally. They'll have to go to an FFL for holding until then. Just FYI based on my understanding of the law.

My trust specifically addresses all trustees dying, FYI.

 

[35Remington]

Single people: I found the following information today that I think would be relevant to you:

"Even if a person is single, it will still make sense to title NFA firearms in the name of a trust because of the built-in flexibility of being able to amend the trust throughout the person’s lifetime to add or remove additional trustees (persons allowed to use and possess the NFA firearms) and to identify beneficiaries (persons who may inherit the NFA firearms when the person dies) as the person’s life and roles evolve (i.e., husband, father, grandfather, etc.). If the person titles NFA firearms in his own name and then decides later to title the NFA firearms in the name of a trust, the person will end up paying the $200 transfer tax (or whatever the transfer tax amount is at that time) for each NFA firearm to be transferred to the trust. This short-term thinking (titling NFA firearms in the name of an individual) could end up costing the person a large sum of money down the road. Further, all property assigned to the NFA gun trust passes to the beneficiaries outside of probate."

That excerpt is from a blog update on Austin NFA attorney Jim Willi's website: http://www.myguntrust.com/are-nfa-gun-trusts-being-eliminated.html. There is a lot of good information on that site, and it's a constant resource for me.

 

[MRGlockMan]

So if I buy a can and fill a form 1 sbr right now, will I be safe zoned or still need cleo sign offs when the stamps get approved?

 

[scap99]

So if I buy a can and fill a form 1 sbr right now, will I be safe zoned or still need cleo sign offs when the stamps get approved?

Get your paperwork in now, and you should be grandfathered.

 

[SC-Texas]

Attempt to Prevent ATF-41p and to Fund Federal Firearms Relief Through Omnibus Appropriation Bill Failed
by Joshua Prince, Esq.
As many of our viewers are aware, we were closely following H.R. 2578, as it contained two pro-Second Amendment provision, namely Amendment 302 and Amendment 320.

Amendment 302 provided “that such funds appropriated for BATF shall be available to investigate or act upon applications for relief from Federal firearms disabilities under United States Code”

Amendment 320 provided ATF was prohibited from “the use of funds to propose or to issue a rule that would change the Chief Law Enforcement Officer certificate requirement with respect to purchase of suppressors and other firearms regulated by the National Firearms Act.”

Unfortunately, these Amendments were stripped from the final bill - HR 2029 - Consolidated Appropriations Act, 2016. As a result, you will not find any text related to Amendment 320 and the text in relation to federal firearms relief remains the same as it has since 1992 -

Provided, That none of the funds appropriated herein shall be available to investigate or act upon applications for relief from Federal firearms disabilities under section 925(c) of title 18, United States Code

As the Obama Administration has pledged to work through the Holiday Season on new regulations to limit our Second Amendment rights, including in relation to ATF-41p, we now need to be prepared to bring the FIGHT to ATF, when they implement a final rule regarding 41p.

We put a LOT of blood, sweat and tears into our initial Comment, as well as, our Supplemental Comment. We have over 400 hrs into them that we did pro-bono. Unfortunately, with the magnitude of this type of litigation, we need funding.

While we understand that it is tough this time of year to donate to a cause, anything you can offer would be greatly appreciated. We are attempting to reach our goal in advance of any final rule being promulgated in relation to 41p, so that we can immediately take action, including filing for a preliminary injunction in an attempt to prevent any final rule from being implemented during the litigation.

For more info and to donate see www.FightATF41p.com and our Press Release.


www.TexasGunTrust.com

 

[35Remington]

Attempt to Prevent ATF-41p and to Fund Federal Firearms Relief Through Omnibus Appropriation Bill Failed
by Joshua Prince, Esq.
As many of our viewers are aware, we were closely following H.R. 2578, as it contained two pro-Second Amendment provision, namely Amendment 302 and Amendment 320.

Amendment 302 provided “that such funds appropriated for BATF shall be available to investigate or act upon applications for relief from Federal firearms disabilities under United States Code”

Amendment 320 provided ATF was prohibited from “the use of funds to propose or to issue a rule that would change the Chief Law Enforcement Officer certificate requirement with respect to purchase of suppressors and other firearms regulated by the National Firearms Act.”

Unfortunately, these Amendments were stripped from the final bill - HR 2029 - Consolidated Appropriations Act, 2016. As a result, you will not find any text related to Amendment 320 and the text in relation to federal firearms relief remains the same as it has since 1992 -

Provided, That none of the funds appropriated herein shall be available to investigate or act upon applications for relief from Federal firearms disabilities under section 925(c) of title 18, United States Code

As the Obama Administration has pledged to work through the Holiday Season on new regulations to limit our Second Amendment rights, including in relation to ATF-41p, we now need to be prepared to bring the FIGHT to ATF, when they implement a final rule regarding 41p.

We put a LOT of blood, sweat and tears into our initial Comment, as well as, our Supplemental Comment. We have over 400 hrs into them that we did pro-bono. Unfortunately, with the magnitude of this type of litigation, we need funding.

While we understand that it is tough this time of year to donate to a cause, anything you can offer would be greatly appreciated. We are attempting to reach our goal in advance of any final rule being promulgated in relation to 41p, so that we can immediately take action, including filing for a preliminary injunction in an attempt to prevent any final rule from being implemented during the litigation.

For more info and to donate see www.FightATF41p.com and our Press Release.


www.TexasGunTrust.com

It's a strange juxtaposition between posts like Mr. Prince's and those of SilencerShop.

 

[SC-Texas]

What do you mean?

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[Tejano Scott]

I think he means a few days ago SS posted a thread here that said 41P would not be happening. Less than 48 hrs later, you post this stuff from Prince law firm. Believe me, I asked same question. What's changed in last 48hrs?


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[SC-Texas]

Link to that thread

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[Tejano Scott]

http://www.texasguntalk.com/forums/silencer-shop/71275-41p-asa.html

 

[Tejano Scott]

http://blog.silencershop.com/41p-asa/

 

[Tejano Scott]

I was off in my timing saying 48 hrs. It was 4 days.

 

[scap99]

I was off in my timing saying 48 hrs. It was 4 days.

(4) 8hr sleeps.

 

[SC-Texas]

Lol. Okay. If the ASA and Sishop say so

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[SC-Texas]

Let's hope they are right

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[Tejano Scott]

Assume and prepare for the worst. That's always been my strategy. Plus, I am a disciple of the gospel of Sean, so I am more inclined to believe you.

 

[SC-Texas]

The problem with their position is that it is inconsistent with batfe behavior in the past

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[35Remington]

The problem with their position is that it is inconsistent with batfe behavior in the [p]ast

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Can you unpack that a bit?

 

[SC-Texas]

Saiga ban. 79k comments against. Implemented.
Ammo ban 49k or so comments
41p. 9k comments

Do the math. Only 9k nfa owners could be bothered to make a Comment.



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