So, gun buster signs, or the verbiage "no guns", is all that's required?
No. Todd has posted the 30.05 requirements.
So, gun buster signs, or the verbiage "no guns", is all that's required?
No. Todd has posted the 30.05 requirements.
Actually, gun buster sign will be enough for 30.05 unfortunately.No. Todd has posted the 30.05 requirements.
Actually, gun buster sign will be enough for 30.05 unfortunately.
I talked to the attorneys at Texas Law Shield about this specifically and because the bill wording is ambiguous (see post 19 and read the sign requirements), a property owner may post about any sign he wants to keep a permitless carrier out. I am not happy about this either so don't shoot the messenger. I thought the wording was explicit but the word may was used instead of shall.Says who?
Texas Court of Criminal Appeals?
Texas AG?
DPS?
The folks who wrote the bill?
Do tell.
I talked to the attorneys at Texas Law Shield about this specifically and because the bill wording is ambiguous (see post 19 and read the sign requirements), a property owner may post about any sign he wants to keep a permitless carrier out. I am not happy about this either so don't shoot the messenger. I thought the wording was explicit but the word may was used instead of shall.
Do we know for certain what notification is required for constitutional carry?
I’m going to amend my previous post. Short of a verbatim 30.05 sign in English and Spanish, I don’t know what else the courts will find acceptable in their local jurisdictions.
Correct and may is not the same as shall. Someone else can be the test case but Texas Law Shield probably won’t defend you when they have interpreted the sign already.OK so nobody with legal authority, just it is USCC opinion, and I just also saw it on P15 of their handbook.
So like in the 90s, it will go to TX/AG for opinion, only this time it is Paxton not Morales.
Wonder if the dog can detect a "leak" in my OC spray canister if it gets too close?....Saw that sign at Deerbrook Mall. Security has a K-9 that can sniff out gun powder. They go to different malls the corp. owns.
Wonder if the dog can detect a "leak" in my OC spray canister if it gets too close?....
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Not the dogs faultThey threatened to use dogs for room inspections at the A&M corp dorms at on one point when I was there (the never did). I always planned on using cyanne, black pepper, etc. to mess with the dogs ala Cool Hand Luke. Never had anything to hide, but I don't appreciate being strong armed.
Not the dogs fault
I would drop hoppes, Rem oil, etc wipes etc all over the place. With a dog treat of course.
True. Would sulfur screw up theirs smellers without harm? Mind you this was a 16 year hypothetical dilima on my part.
Right. If you CC, they cannot trespass you for being armed because they won't know. A security guard is just another employee of the mall (or contractor), not a LEO. No threat to you.It basically gives you notice if they find you have a firearm, you will be given 06/07 notice and have to leave. So conceal up.
If you don't get caught. I am not suggesting that you commit a crime though, better to not enter. This has been the same argument with 30.06, but if you know there is a sign and you enter you are still trespassing even if you don't get caught. We all have to decide for ourselves.Right. If you CC, they cannot trespass you for being armed because they won't know. A security guard is just another employee of the mall (or contractor), not a LEO. No threat to you.
If you don't get caught. I am not suggesting that you commit a crime though, better to not enter. This has been the same argument with 30.06, but if you know there is a sign and you enter you are still trespassing even if you don't get caught. We all have to decide for ourselves.
The sign is pointless and useless.If you don't get caught. I am not suggesting that you commit a crime though, better to not enter. This has been the same argument with 30.06, but if you know there is a sign and you enter you are still trespassing even if you don't get caught. We all have to decide for ourselves.