so that would be a PMAG 30 AR/M4 GEN 2 MOE?My vote is gen two. I’m not a fan of the over travel stop.
so that would be a PMAG 30 AR/M4 GEN 2 MOE?My vote is gen two. I’m not a fan of the over travel stop.
Yes. Gen two is cheaper. Get whatever you want. They make good mags.so that would be a PMAG 30 AR/M4 GEN 2 MOE?
I could argue that if that’s the case, some manufacturers need to be consistent in manufacturing.For Pmags in a run of the mill AR, Gen 2 is fine. The Gen 3s were redesigned a bit so that they would fit in more guns. The Gen 2s are a bit too fat for some guns.
Something I should mention about that WWSD 2020 build is the mag. Gen 2 Pmags will fit in the new receiver design, but they will not drop freely. The Gen 3s will. The price difference is small enough that it doesn't really matter unless you already have a ton of Gen 2s on hand.
You're not going to see much of a difference between 16" and 18". Especially at 100 yards. A 16" barrel is effective out to about 500 yards, though you can make hits past 600. Most small arms combat takes place within 300 yards. Self defense tends to happen a heck of a lot closer.
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You probably want to keep your bullet selection between 55gr and 77gr. I believe the military mostly uses 62gr. The old M16 barrels had a twist rate geared towards lighter bullets. Modern barrels are usually gear towards heavier bullets. You can shoot the lighter stuff still (to a degree), but the guns generally shoot better with something in the 60+ gr range. I think the standard now is a 1:8 twist.
For $1500, you could probably get a BCM and a decent optic, or you could build a really nice one (probably a bit cheaper).
Now, if you are wanting something a little different, this will be hitting the market soon. You would probably have to wait a few months as they said the complete rifles will be the last thing they ship, and it will go over your budget a bit (does not come with optic either), but having basically built a clone of this rifle, I have to say it's fantastic. If you are interested, I would suggest looking into what they did for their 2017 version. They go into the meaning of each part and why it was chosen, as well as what purpose behind this build was. The 2020 version is just an update of the original design with a few improvements. Mainly the receiver.
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Here is the playlist for the design process of the 2017 version. It's about 15 videos long (it was a long process).
I could argue that if that’s the case, some manufacturers need to be consistent in manufacturing.
I have my reasons for liking gen two better. All are nit picky.
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Sooooooo.... I think I found what I was looking for. I'm going to call'em tomorrow and see what their current production schedule is. And... any AR15 magazine will fit this?
As far as drums go, I believe the D60 is at the top of the heap. Haven't heard anything negative about them besides the fact that its a drum.How's about a Pmag D60? 60 round drum... might have to get me one of those!!!
Sooooooo.... I think I found what I was looking for. I'm going to call'em tomorrow and see what their current production schedule is. And... any AR15 magazine will fit this?
I have 5 of them. They run fine in the M-16 as does the SureFire 60 round mags.How's about a Pmag D60? 60 round drum... might have to get me one of those!!!
After a little research it appears that the WWSD AR15 is the first turn key AR that KE will offer. Is this a correct assumption?
ETA: I ordered the Gen 3 mags.
Too old and heavy. Probably wouldn't even function in combat conditions.....
Too old and heavy. Probably wouldn't even function in combat conditions.....
Sooooooo.... I think I found what I was looking for. I'm going to call'em tomorrow and see what their current production schedule is. And... any AR15 magazine will fit this?
The old cav arms style of lowers made sense 10 years ago, but now you can get a milspec lower set up with a replacable grip and adjustable stock that is not only cheaper, but actually a bit lighter.
Imho get a good quality upper with a lightweight 16" barrel, good aluminum 13" free floated handguard, and a standard lower if your choice