The wrongful death of Ashli Babbitt

[General Zod]

Gross misrepresentation of my position.

Completely accurate description of your position.

 

[Younggun]

Don't even bother, just a angry argument starter. General ...you're better.

~ strength and honor ~

I haven’t been angry about anything. I gave my opinion and gave replies in good faith. I haven’t made in hyperbolic claims about others or misrepresented their arguments.

 

[Johnny Diamond]

I haven’t been angry about anything. I gave my opinion and gave replies in good faith. I haven’t made in hyperbolic claims about others or misrepresented their arguments.

I suspect that I am expected to respond....ok I've responded.

~ strength and honor ~

 

[General Zod]

I haven’t been angry about anything. I gave my opinion and gave replies in good faith. I haven’t made in hyperbolic claims about others or misrepresented their arguments.

And nobody has misrepresented yours. You say Ashli Babbit got what she deserved. What she got was an extrajudicial summary execution for the crimes of trespassing and failure to comply with police orders, neither of which is a capital crime. Others who were with her and committed similar acts of civil disobedience were charged with trespassing and parading without a permit. Both misdemeanors. It is not hyperbolic to apply a similar liberal attitude toward executions to other misdemeanors and minor infractions, such as speeding.

What is hyperbolic and misrepresentative is claiming that stepping through a broken window in a public building during broad daylight and in the presence of multiple police officers is the same as a burglar breaking and entering a private home in the middle of the night. Which you have also done.

Now, if we lived in the universe of Judge Dredd, then such heavy-handed totalitarian tactics would be standard operating procedure, but Lt Michael Byrd is not a MegaCity Judge, and he is NOT "the law", and he has no authority to summarily execute an American citizen for committing misdemeanors, especially when other police officers were preparing to apprehend her without violence. Your support of his actions, as well as your hyperbolic and logically fallacious comparisons to nighttime B&E of a private residence, are at the very least distasteful and quite literally and example of you stating your support for murder.

 

[Lead Belly]

 

[PlatinumCouch]

Judicial Watch: Federal Judge Sets July 20, 2026, Trial Date in Ashli Babbitt $30 Million Wrongful Death Lawsuit - Judicial Watch

(Washington, DC) – Judicial Watch announced today that, following a hearing on September 20, Judge Ana C. Reyes of the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia scheduled a trial date of July 20, 2026, for the $30 million wrongful death suit filed on behalf of the estate and the family of...

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Wow, Just Wow. I have been a member of this site for about 4 years (very few comments, just looking almost daily without logging in) and am really struggling with some of the folks on here defending this shooting. Sorry in advance for not replying to any specific comment but I cannot believe some on this site regard this incident anything other than a murder. We have seen Police Officers in this State sentenced to Prison for much less. Is this still the "Great State of Texas"? Is this "Texas Gun Talk" or "Oregon Gun Talk"?

Are there Citizens in this state, who are so politically divided, they are blinded by the simple truth?

Very Disappointed

Any negative comments to this post will roll off my back like water off a Duck. But if you must waste your finger muscles, so be it.

 

[BennyNet]

OMG! Pure propaganda there.
ADL commenting too?

 

[WT_Foxtrot]

I’m pretty sure you would agree that people in NY should be able to shoot an armed intruder, right?

Regardless, it’s not relevant.

Of course I fucking would. Are you fucking kidding me? I guess you missed the motherfucking point.

In NYC, or most any lefty city in the US, anyone who shoots an ARMED intruder is looking at least at interrogation, if not outright charges at the highest level. So basically, you can't defend yourself. And you know that's the plan, right? Or maybe you fucking don't.

Here we have an UNarmed woman who posed zero threat to anyone shot dead. And you fucking defend it.

Still fucking amazed and absolutely fucking disgusted.

 

[WT_Foxtrot]

Wow, Just Wow. I have been a member of this site for about 4 years (very few comments, just looking almost daily without logging in) and am really struggling with some of the folks on here defending this shooting. Sorry in advance for not replying to any specific comment but I cannot believe some on this site regard this incident anything other than a murder. We have seen Police Officers in this State sentenced to Prison for much less. Is this still the "Great State of Texas"? Is this "Texas Gun Talk" or "Oregon Gun Talk"?

Are there Citizens in this state, who are so politically divided, they are blinded by the simple truth?

Very Disappointed

Any negative comments to this post will roll off my back like water off a Duck. But if you must waste your finger muscles, so be it.

Well said.....and completely agree. I'm astounded, honestly.

 

[Younggun]

Sigh

And nobody has misrepresented yours. You say Ashli Babbit got what she deserved. What she got was an extrajudicial summary execution for the crimes of trespassing and failure to comply with police orders, neither of which is a capital crime. Others who were with her and committed similar acts of civil disobedience were charged with trespassing and parading without a permit. Both misdemeanors. It is not hyperbolic to apply a similar liberal attitude toward executions to other misdemeanors and minor infractions, such as speeding.

What is hyperbolic and misrepresentative is claiming that stepping through a broken window in a public building during broad daylight and in the presence of multiple police officers is the same as a burglar breaking and entering a private home in the middle of the night. Which you have also done.

Now, if we lived in the universe of Judge Dredd, then such heavy-handed totalitarian tactics would be standard operating procedure, but Lt Michael Byrd is not a MegaCity Judge, and he is NOT "the law", and he has no authority to summarily execute an American citizen for committing misdemeanors, especially when other police officers were preparing to apprehend her without violence. Your support of his actions, as well as your hyperbolic and logically fallacious comparisons to nighttime B&E of a private residence, are at the very least distasteful and quite literally and example of you stating your support for murder.

I never said she deserved it. I have said it made the point that it’s a fairly predictable outcome. There are situations where someone may not deserve to die, but they might have been doing something that could easily lead to it.

I also never said I supported her death. I’ve stated multiple times it was tragic.

I haven’t been hyperbolic in any way. And in your comment about nighttime B&E I don’t believe I ever specified anything about it being at night. It was specifically in reference to breaking a window and climbing through. The vid posted above doesn’t make it look any better (I stopped watching after the early gunshot freezeframe, didn’t seem like it was anything more than arrest porn coming after that)

So, in the post above you’ve done pretty much everything you claimed hasn’t happened as well as things you accuse me of doing. I’ll bow out. You can have it.

 

[General Zod]

Sigh


I never said she deserved it. I have said it made the point that it’s a fairly predictable outcome. There are situations where someone may not deserve to die, but they might have been doing something that could easily lead to it.

I also never said I supported her death. I’ve stated multiple times it was tragic.

I haven’t been hyperbolic in any way. And in your comment about nighttime B&E I don’t believe I ever specified anything about it being at night. It was specifically in reference to breaking a window and climbing through. The vid posted above doesn’t make it look any better (I stopped watching after the early gunshot freezeframe, didn’t seem like it was anything more than arrest porn coming after that)

So, in the post above you’ve done pretty much everything you claimed hasn’t happened as well as things you accuse me of doing. I’ll bow out. You can have it.

Oh for ****'s sake.

First of all, "play stupid games win stupid prizes" pretty much says she deserved it. You're blaming her for being murdered, so yeah, you're saying exactly what I paraphrased.

Oh, so it's not at nighttime. Seriously? Splitting that hair? Fine. You're comparing a B&E at a private residence being responded to by a private citizen at some point during the day or night to someone being SUMMARILY EXECUTED by a police officer for the capital crimes of trespassing and failure to comply. That is absolute hyperbole there.

Maybe you should bow out at this point. You've shown your true colors to quite a few people here by defending Lt Byrd's murder of Ashli Babbit. You really should be ashamed of yourself, but I know you're not.

 

[jimbo]

Wow, Just Wow. I have been a member of this site for about 4 years (very few comments, just looking almost daily without logging in) and am really struggling with some of the folks on here defending this shooting. Sorry in advance for not replying to any specific comment but I cannot believe some on this site regard this incident anything other than a murder. We have seen Police Officers in this State sentenced to Prison for much less. Is this still the "Great State of Texas"? Is this "Texas Gun Talk" or "Oregon Gun Talk"?

Are there Citizens in this state, who are so politically divided, they are blinded by the simple truth?

Very Disappointed

Any negative comments to this post will roll off my back like water off a Duck. But if you must waste your finger muscles, so be it.

I don't think I've seen you post before.
Hello and welcome to TGT Looks like you have joined in the conversations already.

 

[cycleguy2300]

Speeding? Don’t make silly arguments. I could do the same, but it would do nothing to understand each others point of view.

Yeah, lethal force was definitely justified against some of the rioters. But failures in that situation aren’t really relevant to this one.

My take is kinda like some of the 1a auditors... was lethal for justified? Probably not, but what did you expect to happen smashing a window and climbing through it?

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[General Zod]

Speeding? Don’t make silly arguments. I could do the same, but it would do nothing to understand each others point of view.



Yeah, lethal force was definitely justified against some of the rioters. But failures in that situation aren’t really relevant to this one.

My take is kinda like some of the 1a auditors... was lethal for justified? Probably not, but what did you expect to happen smashing a window and climbing through it?

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Is it just me or is the quote function misbehaving today?

Anyway...it's not a silly argument. She was summarily executed for doing what others who were with her were doing (and doing less than many of them)...and those others were convicted of trespassing and parading without a permit. Neither of those is a capital offense. Babbit was obviously unarmed, and Byrd had absolutely no involvement with the situation before he stepped out, spotted her, drew his weapon and fired. That is murder.

And what should one expect for smashing a window and climbing through it? Arrest. Not a bullet in the head.