The things the bug me about the TX LTC application.

[SQLGeek]

At least the fee is only $40 with a 4-5 hour class. It was $140 and an 8 hour class when I got mine. Shame the Texas Leg didn't have the fortitude to pass unlicensed carry this last session.

 

[ZX9RCAM]

Would petty theft be a disqualifier?

What was your reason for asking this question?
It sure seems like you already knew the answer.

 

[skfullgun]

I don't supply my SSN and it's never been an issue. I'm sure they have other means of securing it. I just don't want it on a piece of paper being shuffled around the State of Texas.

 

[Bithabus]

I don't like to give my SSN to any state for even a driver's license though I have had to in the past. The social security act of 1935 forbids its use for general personal identification. It's only something for the IRS, W-2 employers, perhaps lending and credit institutions, W-9 requesters and the SSA to know about. It should only be required to be revealed for federal income tax purposes.

The state already knows what your SSN is. So does the FBI

 

[V-Tach]

The state already knows what your SSN is. So does the FBI

Yep, and to think otherwise is..........

 

[candcallen]

I've viewed a copy of it online.

1. they ask for one's SSN: I don't know if a LTC will be denied if one fails to provide it.
It's not required on the DROS to purchase a gun from an FFL even, only an option. There are some American citizens that don't even have a SSN. They've never worked as a W-2 employee in their lives. Maybe they are lifetime welfare bums. Maybe they are lifetime disabled. Maybe they've been independently rich all their lives. Maybe they've only been self-employeed and have a taxpayer ID number instead for the IRS. Maybe they've only worked under the table.

2. they ask about prior arrests and charges for past crimes: what they should only ask is whether somebody has been CONVICTED for any crime that would prohibit them from owning a gun in the first place as a felony, for example: an applicant should not be required to reveal getting busted for stealing a candy bar from Walmart on a separate form if that's all they have on their rap sheet

3. the standard fee which is $40 and non-refundable, if you fail the application, you get screwed out of this money for nothing: I think veterans and military as myself get a reduced fee or no fee as well as a firearms training requirement exemption for having been in the service


This is why I favor CC for states. No fees. No hassles. No red tape. No government pumping you for a lot of personal information. CCWs/LTCs are a way for the non-CC states to generate revenue from citizens. It's a way of taxing rights under the 2nd A. It's a way for the govt's to spy on its own citizens, infringe upon privacy rights. Imagine if you were to have to pay $40 every time you move an register to vote.

Why care about the rules or hoops you are forced to jump thru when you grovel to the king to bestow a right you let him take from you long ago?

 

[TxStetson]

The state already knows what your SSN is. So does the FBI

His state probably has his SSN, not so sure about our state.

 

[dove_poppers]

Why care about the rules or hoops you are forced to jump thru when you grovel to the king to bestow a right you let him take from you long ago?

I'm an American. I never surrendered my God-and-Founding-Fathers-given right to keep and bear arms to any king of my own free will. I would sooner die by a fast-moving big truck than do that.

 

[Younggun]

I'm an American. I never surrendered my God-and-Founding-Fathers-given right to keep and bear arms to any king of my own free will. I would sooner die by a fast-moving big truck than do that.

So you carry sans license regardless of legality?




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[majormadmax]

I'm an American. I never surrendered my God-and-Founding-Fathers-given right to keep and bear arms to any king of my own free will. I would sooner die by a fast-moving big truck than do that.

 

[candcallen]

Your ssn is helpful in situations where people with similar demographic info have issues in their backgrounds. It helps them clear your background check.



That's the official answer anyways.

 

[Frank59]

What was your reason for asking this question?

LoL! Inspector Cam is on the case

 

[ZX9RCAM]

I'm just inquisitive by nature....

Just like a little kid, why, why, why?

 

[Eli]

I'm nervous to apply because of a garbage arrest I have that wasn't properly coded in the system - thank you RR/Wilco! It delayed a professional license years ago - a misdemeanor arrest that the CA declined to file charges but showed as an undisposed felony - no telling what it would come up on an LTC background check as. Not to mention, I don't remember what year it was!

Eli

 

[Frank59]

I'm nervous to apply because of a garbage arrest I have that wasn't properly coded in the system - thank you RR/Wilco! It delayed a professional license years ago - a misdemeanor arrest that the CA declined to file charges but showed as an undisposed felony - no telling what it would come up on an LTC background check as. Not to mention, I don't remember what year it was!

Eli

Get a lawyer and get it expunged if charges were dropped. DPS will still see it but will need no further documentation other than the expungment order.

 

[candcallen]

Run a check on yourself first.

 

[Eli]

Get a lawyer and get it expunged if charges were dropped. DPS will still see it but will need no further documentation other than the expungment order.

Unless the law has been changed (again), that isn't a lawful possibility - I looked in to it soon after it happened years ago.

Run a check on yourself first.

How?

Eli

 

[txinvestigator]

Get a lawyer and get it expunged if charges were dropped. DPS will still see it but will need no further documentation other than the expungment order.

Expunctions require removal of all records.

 

[avvidclif]

I don't like to give my SSN to any state for even a driver's license though I have had to in the past. The social security act of 1935 forbids its use for general personal identification. It's only something for the IRS, W-2 employers, perhaps lending and credit institutions, W-9 requesters and the SSA to know about. It should only be required to be revealed for federal income tax purposes.

Going to have to give it to get the hunting license for doves. Guess you're not going hunting.

 

[Sam7sf]

It delayed a professional license years ago - a misdemeanor arrest that the CA declined to file charges but showed as an undisposed felony

Research the statute of limitations for the crime. If the statute of limitations had expired then how can you be denied if you didn’t get convicted?